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And I just joined another #Fediverse project (#Matrix) so that I can write about it for a future issue of #thefutureisfederated

LOVING the #Element app - it looks really modern and elegant. And it's very intuitive and easy to use.

If you have any Matrix rooms to recommend, I'm all ears πŸ€—

Funny how this blog post of mine from 5 DAYS ago is already out-of-date, as I "only" had 9 Fediverse accounts then: https://blog.elenarossini.com/fediverse-summer-3-lessons/

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[–] buzzdee@mstdn.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social For my understanding #Matrix does not belong to the #Fediverse . Matrix is a federated protocol, but as far as I know you can not connect it to the Fediverse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fediverse_branches_1.2.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@buzzdee@mstdn.social Thanks! I found this super helpful explanation on Reddit (of all places):

"Matrix is a federated protocol like ActivityPub. A server running ActivityPub can theoretically be bridged to Matrix and vice versa (though I'm not aware of a fully functional and reliable bridge as of right now). So it's part of the Fediverse in terms of philosophy and potentially in terms of interoperability, but most people don't bridge between them at this time"

https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/comments/zr8ck5/help_me_to_clarify_about_matrixorg/

[–] falcennial@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social yo this is tremendous work, thank you for doing the fedi such a service πŸ’―πŸ’―

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@falcennial@mastodon.social thank you for the kind words!

I'm doing this to get more friends on here. 99.9% of my real life close friends and family members only use social apps by Big Tech.

And I have a vested interest in having the Fediverse succeed because in a decade's time my little one will be a teenager. It would be upsetting to see her use toxic platforms by Big Tech. Her worth shouldn't be associated to the number of followers she has or likes she gets. I'd want her to use healthier social media...

[–] falcennial@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social I find that exemplary. we should all take a lesson from you, actively building a better, trustful, more egalitarian world for the next generations.

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@falcennial@mastodon.social thank youuuu! πŸ₯Ή I just wish other parents and grandparents would be more aware of the dangers / toxicity of digital platforms by Big Tech. Most people I talk to are resigned and say "there's nothing we can do, they're the standard, everybody uses them." I find that to be a weak argument and I'm ready to give all my support to healthy alternatives

[–] falcennial@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social these are the right attitudes and the high expectations we need to set and stick to. kids are in real danger. adults are in real danger. getting radicalised and racist on facebook, torturing themselves to look like instagram people, torrents of misinformation on twitter, it is a shambles. the fedi takes the corrupt corporate element out right, and that puts it in the commons. where it can be made safe and empowering.

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@falcennial@mastodon.social yes, this is why I love the Fediverse so much!

[–] scaglio@livellosegreto.it 1 points 10 months ago

@_elena@mastodon.social beautiful wrap-up! I also believe in the "freedom" of decentralization, and I love that new, interesting projects can be maintained by the community. The price to pay is the destiny of Kbin and other forks...

Bonfire is another interesting software, that I think it isn't having the attention it should have… Also, there is GoToSocial, which seems just perfect for small instances. I often ask myself if having a small, personal space (instance) would be better than join a larger one.

[–] talksina@mastodon.uno 1 points 10 months ago

@_elena@mastodon.social There's the #WordPress community if you have a WordPress .org account but I don't know if they actually attend their rooms. I also know that this Mastodon . uno instance has their matrix room on invitation where they talk about Fediverse. Btw, I heard discordant opinions of someone saying that xmpp is better than matrix but I don't know why.

[–] fjaril@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social check this out https://search-matrix-rooms.denieler.com. You can find a bunch of public Matrix rooms there #matrix

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@fjaril@mastodon.social thank you! πŸ™

[–] sturmsucht@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@_elena@mastodon.social definitely check out @cinnyapp@fosstodon.org! It's a wonderful app but unfortunately still lacks support for threads (the real threads, not the app).

[–] wtrmt@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social can you point me to this Element App? Is it Android only?

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@wtrmt@mastodon.social the whole point of Matrix is to be a free, open source, federated way of communicating, so you can use it on desktop (Mac, Windows, Linux), mobile and even from a browser: https://element.io/download

[–] Blort@social.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social

Just FYI regarding #Element, it's actually soon to have a major overhaul to improve usability and design even further. I'm not sure, but this may be as soon as the #MatrixConference coming up next week, but once again not sure about that. Anyway, you can get a sneak peak of where the development is currently at by looking at #ElementX. Just make sure if you're trying that, that you connect it to an account on a Matrixserver that supports sliding sync ( a requirement for ElementX).

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@Blort@social.tchncs.de thank you! I've blocked time in my calendar to watch the keynote address from the conference (they're livestreaming on YouTube) this Friday morning. It's about Matrix 2.0: https://cfp.matrix.org/matrixconf2024/talk/WUGXFW/

[–] juancnuno@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@_elena@mastodon.social I would love to play with Matrix more but as far as I know none of my contacts are on it

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@juancnuno@mastodon.social ok so from what I'm seeing, Matrix has incredible integrations (bridges) with Slack, Discord, Whatsapp, Telegram, Signal, etc... so you may be able to communicate with your friends using these bridges https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/ (disclaimer: it's my day 2 on Matrix and I'm not sure yet how to make a bridge work)

[–] juancnuno@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

@_elena Some of the companies that host those messaging services aren't amenable to third parties accessing them and will close your accounts. That's enough of a reason (there are others) for me not to play with the bridges. At least with accounts I care about.

If you're braver than me you might wanna give Beeper a whirl. Their business model is to package a nice, customized Matrix client and lots of bridges in an easily digestible package. https://www.beeper.com

[–] _elena@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@juancnuno@mastodon.social thank you for the brilliant suggestion Juan! Woooow!!! Definitely β€œbrave enough” to try Beeper, LOL. And it was purchased by Automattic, which is a really good sign IMHO. I can’t thank you enough! Will try it ASAP