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‘Stop bullshitting me’: Biden said to scold Netanyahu in call on truce-hostage deal (www.timesofisrael.com)

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 134 points 3 months ago

This is no different than the other 5 times we've heard about Biden scolding or begging or setting red lines with Netanyahu behind closed doors, while continuing to send them weapons and protecting them from anyone trying to stop the genocide.

No matter how many Palestinians Biden helps them kill, Israel will support the republicans because they pledge to double it.

Supporting Israel is not just morally repugnant, it's a mistake.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Biden was the most fanatical supporter of Israel in the 80s. Even Ronald Reagan told Israel to GTFO out of Beirut when he saw the barbarity of the IDF in the early 80s. He said to the then PM of Israel that they were doing a holocaust. Even when the PM tried to admonish Reagan by telling him 'don't tell me about holocaust, I know about the holocaust' Reagan told him to fuck off and withdraw or he will withdraw support.

After hanging up Reagan turned to an aide and said 'I had no idea I had that kind of power'.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 82 points 3 months ago

It’s about 6 months too late, maybe more, but I’ll take it

Now maybe try some kind of fuckin consequences maybe, before another 10% of the population of Gaza gets buried under rubble or dies of scurvy or infection or being shot by a sniper

[-] wagesj45@kbin.run 29 points 3 months ago

I agree, but it's all relative. This is coming from Biden who has been a huge supporter of Israel, letting them do pretty much whatever they want to do since forever. This seems like a huge step for the man, given where he's coming from.

edit: Just realized I wasn't super clear. I was referring to the consequences part and how even if we want that, just Biden saying something as was reported is a pretty big step from where we were. I pretty much agree completely with @mozz@mbin.grits.dev.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 17 points 3 months ago

There have been a ton of reports like this, where he allegedly gives Bibi a talking to behind closed doors, and then publicly continues to fully support him

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago

Oh no, not another heated exchange of words.

Anyways, time to ship more 2,000 pound bombs over there.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago

Pretty much.

Better wag that finger even harder.

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[-] aramis87@fedia.io 68 points 3 months ago

a senior Israeli official [said] that Netanyahu has been feeling more emboldened to strike Iran since Biden’s July 21 decision to drop out of the 2024 US presidential race.

STOP SENDING ARMS TO ISRAEL! Seriously. If we stopped sending arms today, Israel still has enough ammo to slaughter Palestinians for another 8 months. Stopping arms sales wouldn't hinder the Israelis' war, but it might give enough pause to help Palestinian peace.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

If Netanyahu wants Trump in office there's not much out there with a higher impact than getting an American Carrier group sucked into a war with Iran and then publicly saying the democrats aren't willing to really fight. Add in assertions they're putting Americans in danger without letting them defend themselves...

Yeah, Biden dropping out was good but it opened the door to some real fuckery because Biden just cannot bring himself to realize the problem in the ME right now is Israel.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Having the US overthrow yet another government in the ME isn’t going to fix things

And yes the threat is Israel escalating the war to force the US to help

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Stopping arms sales wouldn’t hinder the Israelis’ war,

Gosh if only there were some way to take away those bombs.

Oh well.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Bibi:

Why? It works every time with no consequences.

Why anyone would tolerate a guy like this to avoid short-term fallout is a part of politics I can't understand. It seems to me that a single partner being willing to bite the bullet would defeat him.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did you watch the speech at congress? That's why. I'm not sure Biden ever had those many people in there applauding 40 times. It's revolting.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, that doesn't help explain why. I'm not just talking about the Americans either. He's in a precarious coalition government right now.

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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 3 months ago

China's final warning == Russia's final warning == Biden's final warning.

The only reason I see to take this even half seriously is because Biden doesn't have anything left to lose.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Jack if you keep fooling me like this I'm gonna have to send only 2 billion worth of bombs next month. jk I would never do that, I love you mother

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

„Stopping israel from annihilating the Palestinian people is distancing us from a peaceful solution”

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Harris needs to put Netanyahu in his place.

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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

I like how the shitty MBFC bot suspiciously isn't in this thread.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Call me when Biden starts doing something about it, Netanyahu isn't going to stop.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Then promptly sends a few billion more in money and weapons.

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