By a 6-3 majority, Supreme Court strikes down Biden's student loan debt relief plan (www.supremecourt.gov)

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[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

It's quite okay to bail out corporations all day long (2008/2009 great recession, 2020 pandemic) to the tune of billions and billions of dollars, but don't even think of helping normal people. Ever.

This just proves it's VERY important to vote and allowing someone like Trump to have 3 court picks has clearly been disastrous in many decisions made by this court.

[-] undefined_one@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I paid for my loans - why should we forgive the loans for what is already the most entitled generation ever? They took out the loans - they can pay them. Otherwise where does it stop? Are they going to forgive mortgages and car loans next? Why not? It's the same principle.

[-] JDPoZ@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let's re-examine your statement by switching out a couple of words that keep the idea of "why should they get ?" to show how it would sound with any other context.

I - why should we force for what is already the most entitled generation ever?

They - they can . Otherwise where does it stop? Are they going to next?

Why not? It’s the same principle.

Do you understand now? If not, try changing what's in the to being related to "cancer treatment" or "the 40 hour work week" or "social security."

Just because something before was bad and we made it better, doesn't mean we should not do it just because it won't help everyone.

[-] Dandylion@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I'm in my mid-40s and I didn't go to college -- I was one of the last generations where you didn't HAVE HAVE HAVE to have an advanced degree to qualify for something like an admin assistant position.

I truly hope that the younger generations take this as an opportunity to stand up for themselves and stop feeding into the notion that everyone needs advanced degrees. It's absurd. If no one has a degree, then they can't demand that people have degrees. Degrees should be for engineers, doctors, people with advanced careers. Past that, it's simply a money making scheme for colleges and a bullshit bill of goods that they're selling to people who cant, and shouldn't have to, pay for it.

[-] JDPoZ@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Framing here's a bit off. You shouldn't have to go to school - sure... as a requirement... but the big thing that's completely being missed (as we have been taught that college is for "fancy" jobs) is that in other decent countries... there is no cost to it.

Advanced educated populaces are seen by non - "authoritarian-run-shit-holes" as something that makes a country more economically competitive in an increasingly global job market.

Whether it's being paid to learn on the job training with a welding apprenticeship subsidized by taxes, or being able to go to medical school via tax-subsidized funds that don't create artificial barriers to entry for the poor for no other reason - it's a good thing for advanced education (and pre-school and every other form of education) to be publicly funded.

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