Turkey has agreed to guarantee the safety of ships with Ukrainian grain that will go through the “grain corridor” in the event that the Russian Federation withdraws from the agreement.

[–] yarn@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago

Good, so this scenario was already planned for

[–] yarn@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

This is some bullshit. The first time Russia blockaded Ukrainian grain in the Black Sea, they had the plausible deniability that they weren't aware it was going to cause mass food shortages in poorer countries. Now they know full well that's what will happen, and they're doing it again.

The West would be justified in clearing a path in the Black Seas themselves, in my opinion. Russia's being little terrorist bitches.

[–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

What if a bunch of "pirates" commandeered a US Navy carrier fleet, sailed it right up the Don river, and started taking over Russian cities?

[+] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world -33 points 2 years ago (5 children)

No the United States is not justified in killing people who haven't hurt Americans

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Nothing about blowing holes through Russian warships, simply escorting Ukrainian Black Sea grain shipments. Russia is free to fuck off or fire the first shot if they are that determined to let Africans starve from lack of grain.

[–] gimulnautti@mastodon.green 3 points 2 years ago

@BombOmOm @MaxVoltage OMG they are that stupid?!

There goes support from BRICS countries and the global south!

Russia had been busy acting as the anti-colonialist, getting even with their former masters… And there they go, suddenly proving they don’t give a flying fish about people in the south starving, and it’s all been a show. 😂

[–] yarn@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

It's not as black and white as that. There's obviously a point where the West would have to push back against Russia. Most likely this grain deal won't be enough for the West to make any significant new moves apart from what they're already doing, but Russia is playing a stupid game by using mass hunger in poorer countries as a pawn in this war.

[–] Uvine_Umbra@partizle.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh dont worry, it wont be Americans lol. They'll just be confirming to the Turks where the Russians are amd what they're thinking

US naval vessels are barred from crossing into the ~~baltic~~ black sea last time i checked.

It will be the Turkish defending the grain ships and destroying anyone who intervenes

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So developing countries, who is very dependent on imported grain, should just fend for themselves?

I don’t think USA or NATO would risk it though.

[–] Countess425@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

White people generally don't care that much when brown people suffer.

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Go back to Lemmygrad, shill.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Mate this is Lemmy go back to BeeHaw

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Apparently the road was damaged, possibly not the pillars: https://piped.video/watch?v=XfQwgJ-WD8o

More importantly, the rail seems to be usable still.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This bridge is vital to keeping Russian military in Crimea and SW Ukraine supplied and is the second time it has lost a span this war.

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