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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This part of Ed Zitron's latest post jumped out at me:

While Acemoglu has some positive things to say — for example, that AI models could be trained to help scientists conceive of and test new materials (which happened last year) — his general verdict is quite harsh: that using generative AI and "too much automation too soon could create bottlenecks and other problems for firms that no longer have the flexibility and trouble-shooting capabilities that human capital provides."

Click, click, search... Oh:

The recent report from a group of scientists at Google who employ a combination of existing data sets, high-throughput density functional theory calculations of structural stability, and the tools of artificial intelligence and machine learning (AI/ML) to propose new compounds is an exciting advance. We examine the claims of this work here, unfortunately finding scant evidence for compounds that fulfill the trifecta of novelty, credibility, and utility.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The materials (and some subtle walkbacks on PR) shit has featured here before too iirc

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Contained such wonders as : H2O12

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago

that sounds like a super pleasant and stable molecule

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the only one discussed in depth was a different paper (here), but all these things blur together.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ah, my mistake. I guess it was another total bullshit google materials project. easy to confuse those, just like their 734 chat services

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

different paper, same line of work. A-lab paper has two people from deepmind as authors, that were also authors of the other paper (Cubuk and Merchant). these two papers were published back to back in nature for some reason. rebuttals come from different authors tho, and happen at different stages (but point at exactly the same errors - excessively low symmetry/unlikely ordering of similar ions/metals and not looking for disordered structures)

so in retrospect it's even dumber, because they were called on their bullshit twice in space of three months, in format of full paper and preprint, and all that it caused was weak attempt at damage control

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

sorry, had a brain fart, edited now

note to self: don't post after midnight

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 5 months ago

No worries. I figured it was a typo for "excoriated" or something like that.