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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is a stupid take, but it does leave me curious. I can see where your chain of logic lies (let's all vote for Bernie and solve all the problems tomorrow), but the disconnect from idilic fantasy and reality seems to have you hung up a bit. While the tongue-in-cheek Bernie comment would be kinda neat to bring about, you can not realistically shift an entire voting base overnight. You, and others on here are more in tuned to the political goings on than a horrific percent of the actual voting population. I talk politics more than anyone is comfortable with (it IS that important...sorry folks), and I very consistently come across people that don't know what left and right is, don't know what conservative and liberal is, don't know which of the latter is described by the former, don't know the difference between economic policy and social or political policy. So we come back to your take. Yeah, shit has to change, but we have a slim chance of getting systems in place to cause real change under one guy and authoritarian endgame under the other. THIS election's loss carries unacceptable loss conditions. When we are voting between a Clinton and a Bush, then push your agenda because the loss conditions there is just having someone disagreeable in power maintaining THEIR version of the status quo...not ideal, but much safer. Convincing fence-sitters that lean blue (the kind that would care about the genocide happening) to not vote or to vote 3rd party gives the guy that will make everything worse a better chance. Ultimately if you don't vote for one of the two people our current system allows, you are casting a vote for whoever happens to win, mathematically.

Your idea is a Prisoner's Dilemma, and in the real world, we absolutely can not trust that the other 80million prisoners will all play their part. Sorry.

[-] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

That is a stupid take

Take it up with MLK.

I can see where your chain of logic lies

Incredible feat considering you didn't ask me shit.

I assumed the rest continued in ignorance and bad faith.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

MLK is dead so I cant. seeing logic has nothing to do with asking things.

Probably best you avoided the rest, you clearly have a fear of leaving your little silo.

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