Picasso artworks put in female toilet as part of art gallery response to court ruling (www.abc.net.au)

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In short: Tasmanian art gallery Mona has hung artworks by Pablo Picasso in a female toilet cubicle in response to a failed court bid to exclude men from a women-only art installation.

In April, a court ruling found Mona discriminated when it refused a New South Wales man entry to its Ladies Lounge.

What's next? Mona curator Kirsha Kaechele is appealing the discrimination ruling in the Supreme Court.

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[+] grue@lemmy.world -10 points 4 months ago

LOL, nah. Demonstrating exactly how hurtful the discrimination is by turning it against the group usually doing it is a very effective strategy. This notion that the historically-oppressed group needs to act all perfectly noble and correct in order to keep the legitimacy of its grievance is nothing but reactionary, pearl-clutching bullshit.

If those "young males" don't like it, they should blame the old males who fucked it up for them. Otherwise, the only response a male can have to this that isn't sexist is "well played."

[-] Bassman27@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What is there to gain from punishing the current generation who’s more open to the idea of true equality? If anything you’re just pushing them towards being against the cause..

Nice try though lmao

[-] grue@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

The effect of the policy isn't only on the "young males" that you're so inordinately concerned about; it's also on everyone who observes the situation.

If anything you’re just pushing them towards being against the cause…

Translation: "By demonstrating the hurtfulness of sexism to them, it's women's own fault men are becoming sexist!"

Wow, that's right on up there with "if she weren't wearing a sexy dress, she wouldn't have gotten raped." Got any more victim-blamey bullshit?

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

If you punish me for something I didn't do. Then I'll hate you. There's nothing more to it.

If you wanna do "sexism against men because they are sexist towards women" you should at least do things that you suffer from. There are no men-only art galleries in Australia. How is this supposed to teach men "see how you feel? That's how I feel every day".

[-] grue@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

If you punish me for something I didn’t do. Then I’ll hate you. There’s nothing more to it.

If you lack the empathy to understand the bigger picture, that says more about you than it does them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you wanna do “sexism against men because they are sexist towards women” you should at least do things that you suffer from. There are no men-only art galleries in Australia. How is this supposed to teach men “see how you feel? That’s how I feel every day”.

They aren't in a position to (for example) stop men from getting hired into executive positions, though. The lack of capacity for a discriminated minority to effectively retaliate in-kind is part of the point, is it not?

Moreover, what entitles you to decide for them what forms of protest are acceptable?

The fact that you managed to combine a "bootstraps" fallacy and "white moderate" paternalism (albeit applied to sexism instead of racism) so succinctly is honestly kinda impressive.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Well, if a company doesn't hire an executive because she is a woman, paint their parking lot. Don't need to make a company that hires no executive men.

Making a women-only art gallery accomplishes nothing.