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"There’s no posse and there’s no retinue and there’s no family," says Chris Hayes on Trump's arraignment. "The guy is alone. He is solo rolling with the lawyers who hope his checks clear."

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's never gonna happen. At most he'll become bogged down in lawsuits and charges till he dies. But there's no way they'll ever allow a u.s president to set foot in jail

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 18 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Hard disagree.

This stupid cuck is going to jail 100% if he does not win the next presidential election. Our legal system can be pretty fucked up sometimes but it's not that fucked up, this guy literally tried to overthrow our democracy.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not saying he's not going to jail, but I am saying our system is absolutely fucked. This dude is free years after openly trying to overthrow our democratic processes. The most blatant example (Georgia) isn't even one of the indictments he's currently facing.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was told in my local pub yesterday that someone with a criminal record can still be president. But I’m British, and drink with people who chat shit. The landlord in said pub also said that Oceangate was eaten by a megalodon, and landlords like to chat shit.

[–] roy_mustang76@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Someone who is literally in jail can become President, technically. What the day-to-day reality of that would be, I've no clue. But it's technically possible, and we've had people (most notably Eugene Debs) run from behind bars.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah this was literally the conversation, with some speculation.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] roy_mustang76@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Theoretically, on the federal charges, but not any state charges (such as the ones expected to be brought in Georgia)

Of course, a self-pardon has never been tested, and while the composition of the Supreme Court should be favorable to him doing so, it's not guaranteed that they would actually be on board. There would be a constitutional crisis if he tried to self-pardon, and the Supreme Court ruled that he could not (which could be nearly solved by impeachment of either the President or various Justices, but that will not happen under the present dysfunction of the Senate)

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

On the federal charges.

[–] scoredseqrica@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

“it’s not that fucked up” - doubt.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

I hope you're wrong personally