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Vesuvius (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] Paraneoptera@sopuli.xyz 32 points 4 months ago

"Anglicized" is probably not the best way to think about it. The Latin letter "v" was pronounced "w" through the classical period, but had shifted to β or v (fricative) by the third century, long before English existed. V was pronounced v (voiced labiodental fricative) for many centuries. And though we do tend to give the classical period a lot of prestige, it was just one phase for Latin.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago

Funny part is, the same shift happened in a lot of languages. I think some more obvious examples are modern German and Polish, where letter W corresponds to the V sound. Although I believe that the shift happened in German and then Polish borrowed the letter with the new pronunciation.

[-] flughoernchen@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago

Thanks so much for pointing this out. As a native German speaker I still had no idea what's going on until this comment made me question what a W sounds like in other languages. It's literally a double-U in English, how come I never stumbled upon that.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

in swedish i think we've just gone from "fv" to "v", somehow

very common example since it's in old surnames: hufvud > huvud

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