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"There’s no posse and there’s no retinue and there’s no family," says Chris Hayes on Trump's arraignment. "The guy is alone. He is solo rolling with the lawyers who hope his checks clear."

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[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 202 points 2 years ago (4 children)

At this point an indictment of Trump in the US has reached the same level as mass shootings and our dying planet. Which indictment, mass shooting or catastrophic environmental disaster are we talking about? I’m numb and have lost track amongst the desperate hopes for change.

[–] noahm@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly this. An arraignment of a former president has become a non-event. This is ideal for Trump, regardless of how MSNBC tries to spin it.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is definitely some of it. Although being in DC probably also helps to tone things down. DC is a pretty blue town outside of the federal buildings.

[–] cipherpunk@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can picture a world where Trump’s fervent supporters would descend upon DC and cause at least a little turbulence.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Impossible. They’d never do that.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I believe you're referring to Antifa, Trump supporters would never ever never do anything like that.

[–] Caminsky@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What i find interesting is that somehow in developing countries justice was slow but eventually it arrived. I can think of places like Peru with Fujimori. Presidents got away for a while but eventually their own justice systems made them pay. I would be surprised if somehow justice didn't prevail in this situation with Trump.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Justice has to prevail on some level if the US has any hope of protecting its democracy. This was a direct attack on the most fundamental parts of the country.

[–] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if the US has any hope of protecting its democracy.

I don't think that's a priority as far as our leaders are concerned. The facade of democracy is just getting in their way now.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Having 3, possible 4 indictments, some of it very damning, I'm convinced shit will happen. IF nothing happens out of 3 (4*) indictments, then I'd lose pretty much all hope at that point. I am at a point now where I have no yet lost all hope.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At this point I’ll take a slap on the wrist for Trump if he’s barred from running for Presidency. I just want all this to end and for the country to move on.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've wanted this all to end since 2016, but this steamroller keeps on going. Barring him from holding office anywhere, should be given at a minimum. These indictments are very serious. If you're a mathematician, then you know by just the numbers, Trump is fucked and he knows it.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I want to believe, I really do. It just feels like we’re stuck in a Twilight Zone episode.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's going to take like 3-4 years between appeals for this all to play out within the courts. He NEEDS the Presidency again to even attempt to fix the courts in his favor. As it stands, right now he is royally fucked. It's Presidency or bust.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am at a point now where I have no yet lost all hope.

I'll save you a seat down here at rock bottom.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Everyone's bottom is different, no need to save it for me, thanks though!