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[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe personal beliefs shouldn't be imposed on policy that affects different people of different faiths. Wish that was written down somewhere. We could use it as a guideline for how the founding fathers wished the country would be run.

[–] fah_Q@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't know man, maybe slave owning people who lived 248 years ago didn't have the best ideas, or the be all end all say in how a government should work? Maybe I'm nuts?

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But a guy who supposedly is the son of an imaginary guy born of miracle intercourseless birth who makes up arbitrary rules about how to treat others and life life does. We should let him decide about the binary 'nature' of gender. Got it.

[–] fah_Q@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago
[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's a really broad brush you're painting with. It's almost as if the founding father is were complex human beings with complex issues that they had to compromise a lot on in order to even start the country we live in. I mean they kicked that slavery can down the road, where it landed and started the Civil War.

That really is the problem with a lot of the Constitution and similar founding documents. Some of them were widely popular universally (such as banning the quartering of troops) at the time but have little real bearing on our lives today if any. Others were so divisive that they had no choice but to either leave them out entirely (slavery) or compromise messily (iirc that's why we have the electoral college, but I'm rusty on the details).

But no I mean let's just hold them up as if they were demigods who could make no errors and knew everything. Because that makes fucking sense.

[–] fah_Q@lemmy.ca -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you agree with me? What's your point? Pretending things are the same as 200 years ago is willfully ignorant. Pretending the constitution is a sacred document like the ten commandments is dumb.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, they agreed with you. Their point is that they agreed with you. Sometimes people just share their thoughts and aren't trying to start a fight.

[–] fah_Q@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Sometimes is hard to read between the booze lol.