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US signals that it has expanded policy to allow Ukraine to counterstrike into Russia (edition.cnn.com)
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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We're already seeing a meltdown from US regarding Russia creating a military alliance with DPRK. Can't wait to see how US will react once Russia start supplying advanced weaponry to Iran, Syria, and Yemen to be used used against US assets in the region.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

The US would love that, as it can counterstrike in those places with far less risk/complications

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

US navy certainly doesn't sound pleased with the having its ass kicked by Yemen https://apnews.com/article/us-navy-yemen-houthis-israel-war-7a9997f9d84ac669fae69ecf819913fb

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ass kicked?, considering they have to act in a limited way currently, but if Russia ramps up it's involvement you get this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html

Or

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/you-ought-go-home-f-22-raptor-flew-under-irans-f-4-phantom-undetected-207455

Edit: to be clear here, I'm not stanning for the us military, I'm suggesting the US mic would LOVE to openly contest Russian interests and are certainly itching for the opportunity. Ukraine is not that place, but Syria can be.

Edit edit the linked article doesn't show an ass kicking, it shows a contested navel space, which it sounds like is going "just fine", but is risky. And obviously insanely expensive.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Ass kicked?

Yes, ass kicked because US navy failed to accomplish its primary mission which was to keep the waterway open for the empire.

According to London-based shipping services company Clarksons, the number of container ships at the mouth of the Red Sea en route to or from the Suez Canal decreased by 90% in the first week of January 2024 compared to the same period the previous year.

https://www.worldwideerc.org/news/mobility/turmoil-in-the-middle-east-and-its-impact-on-shipping

Edit edit the linked article doesn’t show an ass kicking, it shows a contested navel space, which it sounds like is going “just fine”, but is risky. And obviously insanely expensive.

A contested naval space between US navy and a country that doesn't have a navy. 😂

“It is every single day, every single watch, and some of our ships have been out here for seven-plus months doing that,” said Capt. David Wroe, the commodore overseeing the guided missile destroyers.

“This is the most sustained combat that the U.S. Navy has seen since World War II — easily, no question,” said Bryan Clark, a former Navy submariner and a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. “We’re sort of on the verge of the Houthis being able to mount the kinds of attacks that the U.S. can’t stop every time, and then we will start to see substantial damage. … If you let it fester, the Houthis are going to get to be a much more capable, competent, experienced force.”

US also spent over a billion dollars trying to attack Yemen with nothing to show for it https://en.royanews.tv/news/52092/2024-06-15

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

Ass kicked implies lost lives, lost vessels, lost territory of operation. The ships are still there, they are just busy.

It's nothing new and nothing about the houthis or the us navy that makes mobile land launched missiles and drones a competent challenge to ships at sea.

The normal follow up would be to fuck off or start blasting the whole coast. The fact that we are seeing a third option is interesting.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

No, ass kicking implies being defeated in what you set out to do which was to protect shipping. US navy failed to do its mission. It was defeated by Yemen. Blasting the whole coast was precisely what US tried to do at the start with the air strikes, and that achieved nothing. Furthermore, it's pretty clear that US lacks the industrial capacity and supply chains to maintain this for much longer.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, blasting the coast is desert storm levels of obliteration, anything less is as I said earlier "one arm behind back".

Military Ships are still there, commercial ships are still traveling there.

Edit there's lots to disagree on rationally, but the depth of the US mic is not anywhere close to being tapped, by ability.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

No, blasting the coast is desert storm levels of obliteration, anything less is as I said earlier “one arm behind back”.

US doesn't have this capability kiddo.

Military Ships are still there, commercial ships are still traveling there.

What part of commercial traffic having dropped by 90% are you struggling with there?

Edit there’s lots to disagree on rationally, but the depth of the US mic is not anywhere close to being tapped, by ability.

you keep on coping

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago

Hah ad hominems after you dodged half my original points. Cya!

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

When you definitely know what ad hominem means, also nobody dodged any of your "points". I addressed them repeatedly, but I guess lacking basic reading comprehension you had trouble understanding what I wrote.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

"kiddo"

🥱

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Confusing insults with ad hominem is a common mistake that individuals with low intellectual capacity make.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, you weren't just insulting me, you were trying to devalue my presence in the discussion by painting me a child, in turn diluting my position.

That's classic ad hominem because the insult was tied to the possible value of the argument.

Now you're just insulting me, and still not addressing my argument / position / points.

You're slap fighting all on your own now, as I won't engage in that edit by calling you things back.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

Pro tip. If you don't want people to call you a child then don't act like one.

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