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Democracy doesn't work when there's rampant misinformation and psyops.
All the shitheads on facebook are drip-fed russian troll-farm garbage and they eat it up like santa eats up biscuits on christmas eve.
There are literally no consequences to misinformation and disinformation. A politic can literally say anything and get away with it.
Well, that's dismissive. You don't think that these people are reacting to genuine concerns they have? Not even some of them, some of their concerns?
In an environment where nobody controls the information, people will lie. If democracy doesn't work when information flows freely, doesn't that mean democracy doesn't work?
What do you mean nobody controls the information? We're sitting here talking on lemmy, but most people (or at least most vooters) get their information from capital intensive sources controlled by the ruling class. Television is captured and subject to manipulation, mainstream "algorithmic" social media is captured and subject to manipulation, independent (local) print media is dead. I get really depressed when I think about it
So I was responding to the parent statement, he said when there's disinformation democracy doesn't work. Well in order to avoid disinformation, you need strong control of information flow. That sounds a lot like a dictatorship. The people you vote for control what you know about them, that's not democracy. So if democracy doesn't work because people lie, and democracy doesn't work if information is controlled, then democracy doesn't work, right? Interestingly, he confirmed lower in the thread that he does not believe in democracy.
I'm with you, all news is controlled propaganda. I don't follow any of it as a result. It is sad, but all we can do is try to live in the world we are in. I don't let it get me depressed, I just carry on.
"Information".
Are their concerns manufactured? Like "immigration bad", while it's proven that immigration boosts economy? Like "black people bad"?, "Gay bad"?
Did I miss any of the "concerns" that Afd party is prompting?
If I tell you that your nose will fall off if you don't give €5, that is not information.
An environment where no-one controls the information is anarchy. Anarchy is not a democracy, no.
An anarchy is an environment where no one controls the application of force. Information has nothing to do with it.
Seems to me you don't like democracy and only use it as a means to an end.
...and nobody controls the flow of information.
I think democracy is shit, when paired with unbridled capitalism and rampant disinformation & misinformation.
That doesn't mean I have an alternative. But it's definitely not anarchy.