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The rows over Ulez and LTNs lose sight of the truth: they save lives | Devi Sridhar
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I don’t have a problem with ULEZ zones or LTNs for that matter but more with the lack of advanced warning about the London expansion.
As is often the way, it’s the implementation that’s a problem for people. The full ULEZ plans should have been made public, with a timeline of expansions, five years in advance to give people a chance to plan around them.
@Hossenfeffer @Emperor is 5 years practical with a 5 year election cycle?
Are you calling for no detail of any plan to be adjustable in less than 5 years?
When we're the ULEZ plans, in some form, published, please?
I think the August expansion was announced on 25th November of last year. So less than a year’s notice.
I don’t think that’s enough given the number of people it will affect.
And, obviously they didn’t decide on 24th November that this seemed like a cracking idea but must have planned it earlier.
All I’m saying is more notice would have allowed people to make better informed decisions about vehicle purchases. People who need to head into, or travel through, the expanded ULEZ might have made different choices if they’d known in advance that this was coming.
@Hossenfeffer It'll affect around 10 000 000 people, I think.
The effect is better air to breath and less illness caused.
If you were to tell them you were going to improve their air, but you'd decided to give them 5 years notice rather than one year, I think stepping back quickly out of reach would bd wise.
The effects are of course incremental.
Is this a new thing?
The MOT was introduced last century, I forget when it changed from "not a smokescreen" to limited exhsust emissions. But, no.