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Many voters believe, with good reason, that none of this would have happened without Biden’s assent. Biden has continued to speak of Israel’s attack on Palestinian civilians using the absurd language of “self-defense”. He has insulted Jewish Americans and the memory of the Holocaust by invoking them to justify the slaughter. And though his White House repeatedly leaks that he is “privately” dismayed by Israel’s conduct of the war, he has done little to stop the flow of US money and guns that support it.

Even after the US state department issued a vexed and mealy-mouthed report on Israel’s conduct, which nevertheless concluded that it was reasonable to assess that Israel was in violation of international humanitarian law, the Biden administration has continued to fund these violations. That state department report was published on 10 May. The Biden administration told Congress that it intends to move forward with a $1bn arms sale to Israel. “OK, [Israel] likely broke the law, but not enough to change policy,” is how one reporter summarized the administration’s judgment. “So, what is the point of the report? I mean, in the simplest terms, what’s the point?”

Meanwhile, Biden has expressed public disdain for the Americans – many of whom he needs to vote for him – who have taken to protest on behalf of Palestinian lives. Speaking with evident approval of the violent police crackdowns against anti-genocide student demonstrations, he said coolly: “Dissent must never lead to disorder.”

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[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If that was my position, I wouldn't have faulted Biden his Zionism.

But ultimately, like Bernie who I admire, I've learned to be a pragmatist as I've gotten older.

Don't shut up. By all means, speak your mind. Biden should do better and should be pressured to do better. People need to keep protesting and drawing attention to the injustice.

And also vote. If you can't vote for Biden, swallow your pride and vote against Trump. Because we're not going to see any progress by defecting and giving the fascists the nukes.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -1 points 5 months ago

Because they’re going to change if you keep voting for them?

Einstein had something to say about that

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm voting against trump by voting 3rd party. Care to join?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you know a third party candidate that has a chance of winning and aligns better with my valies, than sure.

Otherwise I feel like you're just trolling.

But if you have some underground third party movement going that's going to upset this election definitely let me know!

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you want a third party candidate to have a chance of winning or even influencing politics then you have to actually vote third party. My comment was no more in bad faith than the people who dogmatically shout "vote blue no matter who." or "A vote for third party is a vote for trump." or some other condescending remark. The point is that people like to try to brow-beat others into voting for candidates that they also claim don't represent them. I've long been tired of making fear-based political decisions just so I can elect someone who doesn't represent me. If it's truly only a choice between some guy I don't like and some guy who will end democracy, then you have no real choice and Democracy has already ended -if it ever began. I will likely be voting for Cornel West or Green Party (as I did during the last General Election) because I actually like and agree with their proposed policy, not because I'm scared of someone else winning. So yes we could really use your vote even if it's just to get us to 5%. If you choose not to then that is your choice, and at least we are offering you that.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Your point about democracy already ending, if it ever began, hit the mark for me.

I'll check out the green party candidate. Cornell is someone I used to follow a bit too and I'll take a look at where he's at.