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U.S. governors urge Turks and Caicos to release Americans as Florida woman becomes 5th tourist arrested for ammo in luggage (www.cbsnews.com)

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[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

This isn’t punishment for actions of their state lol, this is punishment for their own actions.

Yes, I understand this, and it's not what I said at all. Not even remotely.

[-] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 0 points 7 months ago

You just need to paint it way to justify the completely unjustifiable position of thinking individuals should be punished for the actions of their state.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

Let me break it down for you:

Top level poster was saying noone in the us gets a break, so these people from the us should not get a break.

They think that because the us has bad policies, these people should be punished.

Their position had less ( or even nothing ) to do with whether these actions should be punishable because they themselves are bad, their position is about them being punished as some kind of pay back for us policy.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Nope, this is a deliberate mischaracterization of the argument.

It goes like this:

1 - you're not supposed to fly with loose ammo.

2 - many countries prohibit you visiting with ammunition.

3 - if you break a foreign nations laws, that nation can and will imprison you.

not calculus, it's pretty fucking simple.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

I can easily follow that logic and I get it. The whole point is that the poster is arguing they deserve to be punished by arguing that people would be punished by the us system. What the us system does or does not do has zero bearing on whether this is just.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

ok, think of it this way then:

they went out of their way to patronize a country that does NOT invite firearms-tourism. why weren't they smart enough or patriotic bang bang enough to travel someplace they could bring their stuff to?

tsk. poor decision making by them, poor judgement by the gun lovers in this thread who would see them skate on their crimes.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

I couldn't care less why they weren't smart enough. I'm okay with them being punished for it, but in these cases a fine seems more reasonable than a decade in prison.

by the gun lovers in this thread who would see them skate on their crimes.

I'm for pretty strict gun control. You are exposing yourself here: this isn't about being reasonable, it's about some vengefulness against gun owners. Get out of your black and white thinking and taking sides and be objective.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

how'bout, no?

you do you mate.

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