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Lots of times the restaurants won't even have milk
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and the options are sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, or water
Afaik, the only other options for beverages anywhere is milk, coffee and tea. And depending where you get them, the coffee and tea may as well just be sugar (or aspartame) too.
Well, coming from a tropical country to the US was a disappointment there. I used to be able to get a variety of freshly squeezed juices almost anywhere, and the only thing they serve around here are bottled OJ's that barely taste like orange. It's not even like there's a limited variety at the grocery store, it's just not a thing...
Most juice has a lot of sugar. The ones that don't don't generally taste that good.
But bottle OJ tasting like shit is a real thing, they have to do so much to it to get it to last for more than a week on the shelf that all the flavor is sucked out of it.
idk, I make them at home with no sugar and it's pretty good. But I guess expecting the sweet stuff plays a factor on your perception.
Yeah no added sugar. The juice generally contains enough sugar on it's own. Fruit juice is about as nutritious as a soda. You're taking the sweet part of the fruit and leaving behind the fiber and other nutrients.
Not even close. Different kinds of sugar, preservatives, and vitamins all have vastly different ratios.
Different kinds of sugar are all sugar when they get to your gut. Anything beyond "the body treats this like sugar" is just a pissing contest.
When you juice something, you're leaving 95% of the nutrients in the fruit, extracting the sugar water, and telling yourself you're drinking healthy. That's just not the case. The meat of the fruit is where that stuff is at. The fact that some of it makes it in to the juice is incidental. It would be better to drink a glass of water and eat the orange, than to juice the orange. Unless you then throw the juice away and just eat what's left of the orange. That's probably the best thing.
Where I come from we just take the meat of the fruit and blend it with milk or water (and yes, we call that juice), I you have never try it, go get a ripe mango, blend it with milk and you'll have a delicious smootie, you can use water but imh milk is superior for that use case.
Of cours that is no possible with oranges for example, but there a aloooooot mor fruits than oranges.
If you ever have the oportunity to have some guayaba-milk-juice, don't pass it up, the shit is the nectar of the gods.
Nope fruits are high in fructose while sucrose, aka table sugar, is 50:50 glucose and fructose. Fruit has the same or even worse makeup sugar-wise as HFCS, glucose can be used pretty much directly by the body while fructose needs to be processed by the liver, into fat. Evolutionary speaking that makes a lot of sense as when there's a lot of fruit around it's summer and you need to fatten up.
Real fruit vs. juice is a matter of fibre and satisfaction from chewing, it's way easier to overdrink than to overeat fruit.
Sugar is sugar, HFCS found in sodas and juice with added sugars is more concentrated, but your body still sees it and treats it as sugar.
Which it also just happens to see as something to hoard because for our entire evolutionary timeline sugar was a rare resource to be had. It wasn't until the industrial revolution that we began being able to have sugar whenever and however we wanted. Which on the timeline of evolution is nothing but a blimp, a speck of sand.
Even 100% freshly juiced fruit juice with no additives is a sugar bomb.
different kinds of sugar
Fructose isn't good for you, either.
Sugar is sugar.
It really doesn't matter if it's naturally occurring or added after the fact. It's sugar.
Debating what kinds of sugar are better for you is kind of like debating which landmine is better to step on.
Don't get me wrong, the occasional sugary beverage is fine. But juice is never going to be good for you. Even arguably.
You’re trading HFCS for plain old sugar. Most fruits are approximately 50/50 fructose and glucose, while HFCS is between 42% and 55% fructose, with the balance being glucose.
Chemically and biologically, they are basically the same.
Juice is still pretty sugary, even fresh squeezed. They naturally have sugars in them which is why they are sweet. While a lot of premade juice also includes added sugars. There was a study posted somewhere on Lemmy not too long ago that showed most American's sugar intake came from fruit juices and not sodas as previously thought.