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Two key notes for anyone wanting context
You could add anyone as a mod to a sub you moderated, he was added as a joke
Even more context they did give the guy who ran it and most the other nswf subs a special award before media controversy got them to ban the most problematic subs. So really it's a somewhat unfair statement but he was clearly aware of the sub and did nothing until forced.
The comment editing was clearly a joke because the Trump sub was pinging him in posts insulting him for enforcing moderation policy against them - he set it to change 'fuck @spez' to 'I love spez' or similar.
Fair point. He could be just an absolute bonehead who for whatever reason wasn't able to process that he needed to get the avowed overt pedophilic activity off his server, and didn't see the problem even with them joking around about how he was on their side and giving them an award. There's no particular reason to think that he himself has any inclination that way.
This is a perfect example of something that's a joke when you're the one with the power, but if you're the one on the receiving end is absolutely not a joke.
I suspect that if someone at Google (or whatever) was editing spez's emails for any reason "as a joke" then he wouldn't be entertained by it in any capacity or think it was okay, however harmless their edits were according to them.
There is a huge difference between subtly changing posts in secret and very obviously doing it to poke fun at people attacking you without any intention of secrecy.
I don't think it was a great thing to do because unserious trolls like the nimble navigators were bound to try and sell it as a big deal and as we see it'll echo for ages by people repeating the most salacious elements without context. I don't think it's anything shocking, moot used to use identical word filter tactics against the very same people and they laughed at it, users found it funny at the time too until they realized it was expedient to be outraged.
I'm here because I dislike Spez and how he runs things, but I think it's important to have good arguments not paper thin mock outrage.
Can I give you a list of substitutions which you will then have to apply to your comments going forward, and go back and edit your past comments to apply? Would you agree to that? For your convenience I can give you a set of links to click to apply the edits.
I promise (for real) that I'll only do it to poke fun.
All I'm saying is there is a difference and that it is deceptive to present it like it's one thing when it's something else because you know that it'll be more effective at convincing people of the thing you want them to think.
Just say what actually happened if you genuinely believe it's exactly as bad.
I did say exactly what happened: He edited posts. And I explicitly addressed what you're saying here: I'm saying it doesn't matter how "harmless" the edits are that you're saying create such a big difference. I'm saying any amount is bad (which isn't the same as saying that any edit is the same as any other edit).
You left out key information which I now suspect you knew very well would cause people to have a different response and you're using for paper thin excuses to try and justify it.
You know you're being deceptive and you should be ashamed.