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Very cool!
Though if I may put on my theory nerd hat, PSL aren't exactly Marxist-Leninists. They're Marcyites, who are trots that accidentally reinvented ML, through Trot talking points.
So, for example, Sam Marcy split from the Socialist Workers Party to form the Workers World Party, and argued that Actually Existing Socialism's were "removedd workers states, like Trotsky asserted, but that this was a necessary stage they all had to pass through, by virtue of having to survive on a planet dominated by Capitalism.
Therefore, the Marcyites support AES, instead of opposing it, like other Trots do.
I'll be transparent and say that, working w PSL, people have only ever described themselves as ML and we've extensively read ML texts. Maybe this is true, but more of a historical footnote.