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@Blamemeta @Bongo_Stryker I'm pro #Israel, and support their side of the conflict, but there are some small (but significant) cases in which the #IDF very likely violated international law/the #GenevaConventions; using #WhitePhosphorus, and the siege on #Gaza, as well as potentially the targeting of the #WCK truck. Targeting #Rafah probably looks like a genocidal tactic, but to be fair #Hamas militants are likely there.
White Phosphorus is legal to use. Not sure why people keep repeating it isn't.
White Phosphorus is used to create a smoke screen to allow your troops to move around. It is only illegal when used as a weapon and you don't try to minimize civilian casualties.
Israel goes beyond their responsibility to minimize civilians casualties.
@wintermute_oregon Hmm. I never saw any clear confirmation as to why it was used during the war in the one case it was discovered.
Smoke. In an urban environment you need lots of smoke to move around. Otherwise you have to use more force which can risk civilians.
https://www.hudson.org/terrorism/hamas-strategy-depends-maximizing-palestinian-civilian-casualties-douglas-feith
You mean why would I use a conservative source on a consecutive forum? Aka the truth.
You’re not having a discussion. You’re crying about the source.
You didn’t offer a counter. You offered whining about it.
I can’t have a conversation about crying. Offer a counter cite.
No, the reference is good, but you want to whine about it.
It is well known Hamas uses people as human shields. You have yet to counter that.
https://stratcomcoe.org/publications/hybrid-threats-hamas-use-of-human-shields-in-gaza/87
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/26/amnesty-international-says-hamas-committed-war-crimes-too/
NATO States it, and Amnesty International states it, yet you don't offer a counterpoint other than but why is a conservative posting a conservative source in a conservative forum.
Rule 2 - my source is a reliable conservative source.
You’re free to counter cite when you’ve refused to do because you know I’m right.
I just cited you nato and amnesty international Both are reliable sources.
It isn’t my job to seek out other sources. I seek out the truth. I just cited three serious to your zero.
Sounds you are arguing in bad faith. That’s where the argument is going
You think amnesty internal is conservative ? That’s trolling.
@Blamemeta @Bongo_Stryker Thing is, violating international law and the rules of war are not the same as committing a genocide. Genocide is a very specific claim that #Israel does not meet the standard for. It's interesting to note as well that despite the (albeit minority) amount of American more mad at #Israel than #Hamas, #Hamas has done far, far worse in the #Israel #Hamas war than the #IDF has.
Has the #IDF raped civilians? I think not.
@Blamemeta @Bongo_Stryker *I think not
@realcaseyrollins @Blamemeta @Bongo_Stryker
Good summary. The worst we have IDF on is hitting the wrong targets while the Palestinians used them as human shields.
Has the IDF raped civilians? Shit questions. Most likely yes, some soldiers have but the IDF as a whole does not.
American soldiers have raped women. That doesn't mean the US supports it. We punish those who do.
@wintermute_oregon No no no not #IDF soldiers; the #IDF, as a military group, as part of a militant campaign. People tend to do whatever when they're off duty, that doesn't exactly count.