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[-] pheet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

do you guys downvote all true things you find inconvenient?

I think people are downvoting the fact that you are insisting the "...incendiary weapons such as the above...", when the weapon is not in fact an incendiary, also according to UN Convention

[-] galloog1@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

What weapon was it? US made weapons, even with shaped charges, are incendiary. It's in the field manual and training. I don't know what to say beyond this. There hasn't been a court case around it to my knowledge so there is no precedent set.

[-] pheet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago
[-] galloog1@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

... Yes have you read the training manuals for US weapons such as the AT4?

[-] pheet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's irrelevant since, as in the link:

Protocol III states though that incendiary weapons do not include: ... Munitions designed to combine penetration, blast or fragmentation effects with an additional incendiary effect, such as armor-piercing projectiles, fragmentation shells, explosive bombs and similar combined-effects munitions in which the incendiary effect is not specifically designed to cause burn injury to persons, but to be used against military objectives, such as armoured vehicles, aircraft and installations or facilities.

Having an incendiary mechanism doesn't mean it is an incendiary weapon in the sense of your quote of Section 6.2 of the 1999 UN Secretary-General’s Bulletin.

[-] galloog1@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, which is why the target of the usage of the weapon matters. Was the target in the video an armoured vehicle, aircraft and installations or facility?

[-] pheet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Exactly why it doesn't matter, it's not an incendiary weapon meant to target ppl in the incendiary way, thus it's not seen as bad of a thing as an incendiary weapon. To put it in other way: that person didn't feel the horrible (and longer) incendiary effect because of the other effects of the weapon. Does it really matter if the person is outside or inside of an armoured vehicle? The actual incendiary weapons are whole different thing.

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