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Did the average civilian just living their life have anything to do with it?
Maybe we should ask civilian Shani Nicole Louk.
Oh but we can’t because her naked corpse was last seen in the back of a Hamas fighter’s truck being spit on by dozens of cheering Palestinians.
That image will haunt me the rest of my life. I can’t Imagine the rage born within an Israeli from that absolutely vile video.
Hey, if they want to lump innocent people in with the actions of their government, then I’m ok with that as long as they apply it to the Israeli population as well. The only question is, how do they think we should punish innocent Israelis for what their right-wing government is doing?
Oh wait, they wouldn’t like that because most Israelis aren’t Arab. How could I forget.
Well 1200 or so Israeli’s died from the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7, and so far Israel has retaliated 30 fold by killing about 32,500 Palestinians. If the Palestinians were to respond in kind that would be about 975,000 Israeli’s.
Yes they attacked a wealthy nation where it’s mandatory for every citizen joins the military for 32 months. It was beyond stupid.
Condemn the actions of Hamas and surrender the locations of the Hamas leaders and Israel may stop the attacks. However, this foolish war Hamas started/escalated may have just cost the Palestinian people Gaza.
What part of stop the genocide are you not hearing?
Israel is committing genocide. You don’t get to make demands when you are committing genocide.
I condemn the genocide.
You are very clueless. You have been brainwashed my friend. Good luck to you.
If Israel takes over Gaza I am fairly certain the Israeli state will cease to exist within our lifetimes. The world knows that Israel is in the wrong here.
At what point exactly did it go from retaliation strike to genocide? When the US dropped nukes on Japan was it Genocide as well? Give up Hamas and any hostages and Israel will have no justification to continue destroying Gaza. It’s common sense. Civilians die when their terrorist government hides behind them.
I’m convinced you’re a shill trying to turn young democrats away from voting for Biden. Nobody can look at the images from October 7th and act so clueless as to why Israel might be fucking pissed off and want to level Gaza and everyone in it.
Keep in mind the Israelites have actually been the victims of attempted genocide probably more than any other people.
I don’t think the US should send any more artillery to Israel. But if you’re suggesting we get involved, get a fucking clue. I’m done sending Americans to fight and die in ancient holy wars.
At what point did you ever question your strong belief that the occupation in Gaza and the West Bank should end?
I assume never.
I’m convinced you are arguing in bad faith. I’m sorry, but there never has nor will there ever be a good valid and moral reason to level an occupied territory killing over 30,000 civilians in less than a year.
Keep in mind there is never a good excuse for genocide, even more so if your people have been the attempted victims of genocide.
I’m suggesting we stop giving Israel offensive weapons.
Vote your conscious, I would never in a million years vote for Trump but as it stands I will not vote for Biden. I voted for Obama twice.
Not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump. We all wanted Bernie but when the establishment shut him out he told us to vote for Hilary. Many of us didn’t vote and we almost lost Democracy. The road to AOC or someone like her ends if Trump gets into office. Democracy as we know it will end.
Gaza and the West Bank have been under contention forever. Jews and Muslims will always hate each other. We shouldn’t support either, I agree. We shouldn’t take any side at all.
35k deaths isn’t genocide. Not even close. Are civilians being allowed a path to evacuate to Palestine?
I disagree with everything you just said. Have a good weekend
Gaza inhabitant are under blockade and mistreated ... The Israel government favorised hamas against fatah for a long time (and the current Israel president assumed it).
There is apartheid in Israel and the retake of Gaza would have happened without the 7 October.
I hope you say thar because you just don't know how to act while thousand of civilians are being killed and you try to find a reason to ignore it so you can sleep.
A compromised moderator deleted my previous comment so I already feel vindicated. This is becoming reddit so much faster than expected! That said, I just can't help myself.
I love that your rhetoric is "Isreal would have attacked Gaza anyway." Fucking brilliant stance. Who is fucking buying this shit?
And I sleep fine becuase I learned when I was a child that God is a story and I'm entitled to nothing. The lands these people fight over will be uninhabitable in 20 years anyway. I hope the centuries of misery was worth it.
> A compromised moderator deleted my previous comment so I already feel vindicated. This is becoming reddit so much faster than expected! That said, I just can't help myself.
I'm on my own instance of pleroma, so I still can read your old post.
> I love that your rhetoric is "Isreal would have attacked Gaza anyway." Fucking brilliant stance. Who is fucking buying this shit?
Anyone who follows Israel politics before 7 October. Government talked about retake of Gaza before this day...
> And I sleep fine becuase I learned when I was a child that God is a story and I'm entitled to nothing. The lands these people fight over will be uninhabitable in 20 years anyway. I hope the centuries of misery was worth it.
Sorry? People are being killed, that's it. Why talking about God here? You're bringing religion into a political matter that is much more linked to colonization and imperialism...
I don't see any good point in what you said... Are you a troll?
Am I a troll? Are you a Russian shill?
All of this is about religion. You think the Jews and Muslims hate each other because of imperialism? Homey, their hatred predates the fucking bow and arrow. They believe they are entitled to Gaza by divine right. It’s not worth trying to convince either side they’re fucking idiots. That’s why I sleep well. Because I don’t waste my time trying to change the minds of sheep.
I understand the irony of that comment as I argue with someone on the internet.
So to be clear. Israel is only allowed to kill 1200 people? Anything more and they are somehow morally inferior to Hamas who broke a long standing cease fire so they could take the opportunity to rampage through civilian towns and going on a killing spree of innocent civilians. It’s so fucking insane. If only you could hear yourselves through the hypocrisy. Both sides suck.
2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinians in a long time, and that was before October. There was no ceasefire.
Come on dude stop being a dolt.
Israel has claimed to be the most moral army in the world.
If you are now comparing the IDF to a terrorist organization, then I understand why…. It’s because Israeli government and the IDF are a genocidal regime.
I'm not. It's super fucked up. How exactly does more innocent people dying help?