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(lemmy.world)
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I mean, you brought it on yourself. If you live in the U.S owning a gun should be controversial. Ya'll have proven incapable of using them responsibly.
Here's the real problem. Guns are basically dangerous tools, and should be treated as such. Instead, they have a cult of personality. I've got no problem with people owning knives and hammers, but if some dude has a bunch of pro-knife, and pro-hammer stickers on his car, joins the knife and hammer Association of America, regularly shows up to angrily protest restrictions on where you can carry knives and hammers, walks around with a concealed knife and hammer at the mall because a box or nail could be around any corner... I might start to think that nut job should not be allowed to have a knife or a hammer.
Did you write this? It's a perfect analogy.
I did physically type it out. I doubt the idea is original, I'm sure I've heard similar sentiments elsewhere, but at this time I cannot attribute it to a particular source.
That sounds like a really cool person compared to a pro-gun nutter honestly. I'd think that guy is probably an expert satirist
Tools for what job, again?
The problem with the “guns are tools” categorization is that the only job they’re for is killing ~~people~~, or threatening to do so. Unless you’re talking shooting at the range, in which case that’s really more of a toy than a tool.
The reasons those protests don’t happen for tools is because they generally serve some other primary function which is useful, and that they’re not nearly as likely to be used accidentally.
Intimidation and posturing, mostly, which is why they're attractive to macho fools. Doesn't mean they're not useful for that job, though
Uses for a firearm that don't involve killing people.
Hunting, defense from predators, fire starting, signaling, paper weight, preventing your checked bags from getting lost or tampered...
Fair enough re: hunting.
You really ran out of steam after defense from predators though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flare_gun
https://youtu.be/KfqtYfaILHw?si=j7x4TyHmk6kMj5cd
There is a good video of Les Stroud showing how to start a fire with a gun, having trouble finding it.
Those were 6 uses off the top of my head.
If you really want to stretch uses, you can use a gun as a hammer, you can use it to pinch your finger, and in dire situations it can be a dowry.
I got my boy scout badge when I used a gun to start the camping fire. True story.
Never had any of my hunter friends (and there's a lot of them) hunt with a handgun. Is that even legal?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handgun_hunting
TL;Dr yes, the enthusiasts say it takes more skill, which is true, so fair enough, though I'd argue it's more likely to just make you miss a killshot and lead to unnecessary suffering.
Just get closer with a rifle if that's your thing.
No, no, look, if we let our gun culture get even more out of control, it'll loop back and become responsible again.
You think our gun problem is bad?
Wait till you see our cruise missile and killer drone problem.
100% this - if we had the gun violence Switzerland saw (who has a comparable number of firearms per person as the US) I would be pro gun too.
Instead we've got a lethal cocktail of incompetence, entitlement and mental illness where gun owners and firearms industry simps see dead children as the 'price of freedom'.
It's fucked.