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It's strange how you're ignoring the fact that Israel attacked first. Iran retaliated, and did so after warning Israel of exactly what it was going to do so it could prepare. It did this even though Israel attacked Iran without a similar warning and assassinated an Iranian general.
Iran's response has been tepid and measured because it doesn't want to start WW3. Israel, on the other hand, very clearly does.
Bit disingenious to call (senior) Members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps 'officials' like they're low level bureaucrats, not military personnel.
Why did they attack?
According to Al Jazeera, the IRGC initially claimed the october 7 attack on Israel was revenge for the killing of IRGC commander Qassem Soleimani, although they later retracted that statement.
In any case, the cold war between Israel and Iran didn't start with Israel bombing an Iranian embassy. Honeslty don't know who started it, but it wasn't the first attack, not the first attack on an embassy either.
Iran claims they warned Israel. The US says they didn't.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iranian-notice-attack-may-have-dampened-escalation-risks-2024-04-14
I mean, your user name suggests you're queer and a communist. How utterly bizarre that you're defending an Islamic theocracy.
It is possible to be critical of Israel and not defend Iran. Just so you know, I know Russian propaganda probably told you otherwise.
Look at you tripping over yourself to defend the indefensible. Sad shit, man. What happened to you?
He was always like that nothing changed.
You forgot to mention 'genocide Joe' or go on about '''Zionists''' controlling all western media Linkerbaan.
Not the level of debate we expect of you. Fingers tired from copy-pasting Kremlin propaganda?
Looks like you didn't reach the end of my comment:
But hey, if people being critical of Iran or their terrorist proxies disturbs you, perhaps you should join the ghost of Russell Bentley on lemmy.ml
Ohh shit my bad you said the magic words I hadn't realized it.
That's literally what they are, your feelings don't matter. I'm quite sure some country believes some of your nations leadership are outright terrorists as well should they be able to strike your country with impunity?
Its not a cold was when you launch a direct offensive strike..
And yet several countries and the UN including the third party intercontact disagree.
Who cares what their personal politics are, you need to see the forest for the trees.
That is indeed possible, its also possible not to out people and disparage them in defense of Israel.
To draw the US deeper into the conflict.
Fair. Netanyahu has been provoking Iran for decades, this is just the latest escalation. But the fact remains that Iran was retaliating to an attack that came from Israel, Iran wasn't just attacking out of nowhere.
And yet the US and Israel were able to perfectly defend against the attack and prevent any serious damage. 🤔
I guess we're just supposed to believe that those defensive capabilities are god-like and can respond to any attack with zero warning!
Y'all keep telling me to choose the lesser evil in the elections but you won't do the same thing in a geopolitical context. 🤨
Israel identified the ring leaders of the October 7 event as Iranian military commanders who also happen to use an embassy as their base of operations to plan and execute their attacks.
The moment that was discovered, the embassy no longer became a neutral zone and was changed to be a target.
This is the same rules schoolyard bullies do to protect themselves from punishment by hiding behind their shitty parents after bullying you, and so do terrorists (including Hamas).
International law doesnt allow you to declare "not an embassy" because i want to kill a motherfucker in it. Countries in conflict will often have embassies filled with people the other country wants dead.
The whole point of embassies is that they are "off limits" so that matters of state can be solved by disgruntled parties via diplomacy, not warfare. Bombing an embassy is a direct call for war, exactly because it by definition has important leaders of that countires nation inside of it.
Bombing it is no different than bombing any goverment building staffed by that nation's leadership in Tehran. It is in fact a huge provocation for war, and so far its only Irans restraint that has stopped this from escalating.
The fact that Israel has put the world into a position where Iran, a nation run by theocratic despots who brutalize women and sponsor terror, is the calmer actor, is absolutely surreal.
300 drones/missiles restraint? It was the largest single attack of its kind the world has seen.
International law is such a stupid concept to me since it's literally pointless unless there is someone who can enforce it.
So don't come at us with that bullshit, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion at all and it would've already been handled by the "international police"
Israel and Iran and Russia will continue to conduct whatever they want, and there's literally nothing you and I can do about it besides waste time arguing about it online.
That's a lot of words to say "I don't understand international politics."
Try my sentence next time. It will save everyone a lot of time.
Try which sentence?
I'm not sure if you've been paying attention but Israel says this about literally every target they want to bomb. Then they promise to provide "concrete evidence" later, never do, and eventually their claim gets disproved.
40 beheaded babies
A hatch that leads to Hamas tunnels
Gaza hospitals are terrorist bases, and that's coming from CNN who runs their stories by the Jerusalem office before publishing, and has a list of words to avoid in order to further Israel's narrative at the expense of the truth.
The list goes on but by parroting unconfirmed IDF talking points you are complicit in Palestinian genocide.
Edit: here's another one from today
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/israel-unrwa-staff-terrorist-links-yet-to-provide-evidence-colonna-report
It's pretty disgusting to see you cheer for Islamic terrorist groups who would throw you off buildings. Iran was responsible for October 7th, Hamas is their proxy.
I don't think anyone in this thread has "cheered for Islamic terrorist groups".
The factual statements people have made are true: Iran has been the more restrained actor. Israel's aggression has been alarming. The US govt's position has prioritized an alliance far past our national interests. It's any of this incorrect?
I don't like the Iranian govt. I don't like the current Israeli gov't. I'm not thrilled with America's gov't. I love my country (the US), and I like most Israelis, Palestinians, and Iranians. Is that really hard to reconcile? It seems like the majority opinion.
Look at queermunist's comment history, every time I see them in the comment section, they are simping for some islamist violent group known for murdering LGBT people. When it wasn't Iran it was Hamas.
Yup, this one was ISIS flavored.
There's no historical grievance with the Islamic World? They're one of those people who deny the Uighur genocide, aren't they?
ISIS just makes a lot of money selling oil to israel. So nice of israel to fund ISIS with money that ISIS will definitely use for Charity activities
Literally nothing they said in that thread came close to supporting ISIS and nothing else I've seen from them comes close. you just can't comprehend the idea that someone could want fewer Palestinian children to get bombed
And where does Bibi fit into that, having directly funded Hamas for literal decades?