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That's a strawman argument. She wasn't tortured to make her work, she was tortured by a sadist.
You're right. Clearly our jail and prison industry is entirely above board
Our jails and prisons are fucked up but OP made some VERY outlandish claims
Look, you haven't made any real argument here, so I was just following your lead. If you insist that I prove you wrong, here you go: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4228271
Yeah, that paper that famously pointed out that county corrections inmates are required to maintain the cleanliness of their living space.
Required physical labor you say?
I guess if your mom was imprisoned with you she could clean up after you.
Your argument seems to have changed from "forced labor in county jails doesn't exist" to "I support forced labor in county jails". Not really convincing me that you're interested in anything other than bootlicking.
If you're imprisoning someone against their will who has not been convicted of a crime, you can't legally compel them to do any amount of labor, not even janitorial work. The Constitution is quite clear on this.
As an adult, I have no obligation to clean up after myself if I don't want to, the government can't compel me to do so either just because I'm in their custody. If they lock me up in jail without a conviction, they can clean my cell for me until I am either released or convicted if it matters so much to them. Any attempt to punish me for failure to clean their facility is nakedly unconstitutional.
Or they can offer me a fair wage that I'll agree to, as a free agent I am open to negotiation. I have the right not to lift a finger without agreeable pay. Nobody takes that right away from me without due process.
None of that will happen. They will throw you in AdSeg and let you stew in your own filth for the duration.
Either that or your celly will kick your ass for being a pig.
Ah, an endorsement of violence now. You really love cruel punishments without due process, huh?