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Then what about protecting a long-lasting 70+ year old friendship with Taiwan?
Do you know anything about the history of this region? Or are you blatantly ignorant about this as well? I've posted some tidbits of our shared history with Taiwan and why it just makes sense to treat them as a close friend.
Or are you just ignoring other parts of my argument because you have literally nothing to say about it?
Indeed. Your apathy and caustic attitude towards me is acknowledged. Cool, now that that's covered, do you actually have an argument or do you have a way to show me any kind of semblance of knowledge of this region or history? Or is shitting on me the full extent of your discussion powers?
You're not getting it.
Let me make it clear to you then. You're so dumb and ignorant about this discussion, that your only way of conversing with me is apparently through insults. And this fact is fucking hilarious to me.
Now prove me wrong. But I'm over here laughing at ya. Do you have anything better to say on this subject, or are you out? Or are you just going to say "Imperialism" again?
You're the person who brought up imperialism lol
it's funny how people just think that if someone disagree with them, the go-to attack is to say they don't really care. I do believe you really care about your stupid job and prices of video games consoles and cars or whatever lol
Yeah I get it.
You don't give a shit about our 70 year friendship with Taiwan. To the point you couldn't even acknowledge it in your most recent post to me. That's cool, you're the kind of guy who wants us to give up on our long-term friendships because of "imperialism".
You got your chance, and you took it. You ignored the most important part of my argument yet again, the long-running friendship between our countries. Whoever reads these posts in the future: that's the threat our country faces. Apathy, Nihilism, ignorance of history, betrayal of friends. And these people will offer fake crocodile tears and fake-care about imperialism.
I think I've pushed this discussion far enough to prove my point. Not to you of course, but for everyone else in the future. Thanks for the discussion.
You're trying to appeal to patriotism to support a war abroad, that's like textbook imperialism lmao
But anyway, I was just using the word imperialism because that's how you were justifying the war with China. I don't think it matters which evil global superpower has control over a particular region. The US and China are both imperialist countries, so it's a useless argument to say we should fight China to stop an imperialist power. For what? So we can be the stronger imperialist power? If you want to send your kids off to war for that, idk maybe sign them up for football instead.
Why should I care about "friendship"? Literally why does that matter. We're also "friends" with Israel.
You're just giving up on the discussion because you don't want to have to admit that you are willing to send people to DIE for your cheap computer parts.
If you're someone who truly cares about imperialism, maybe stop advocating for wars abroad with our hugely inflated military, and start advocating for Native American land back.
Yet another post talking about abstract issues and nothing substantial about Taiwan. Got it.
Proudly display that ignorance. Its fitting for you.
I mean, it's okay you can just say you don't understand it
Yarr yarr Imperialism. I'm 15 and this is deep.
Long standing relationships between countries, people, defense, economic ties don't matter. All that matters is imperialism. But not the kind that Chinese would do if they attacked other countries. That imperialism we should just let happen because other imperialism happening elsewhere is a bigger deal.
Its silly to care about other countries. Except when you care about Gaza, that is more important than huge economic, societal, political, and military relationships that have lasted decades across the pacific. Yaaarrrr, Israel bad.
You're making fun of caring about imperialism, but the whole reason you said it was important to go to war with China (aside from the computer chips) was that you said China is imperialist.
You don't care about Chinese expansionism (aka Imperialism). So don't give me that bullshit.
Look, you can pretend to care, or you can pretend to not care. When you pretend to do both, its... kind of hilarious and I like making fun of it.
I don't like either one, but why should the US be the world police for imperialism when the US is one of the most successful empires in history? Kind of amazing the amount of cognitive dissonance. You flipped out when I dared say anything about your job, but you've been continually mocking and insulting me the entire time.
You don't care about stopping imperialism, you just want your country to have the stronger empire so you can keep your dumb job.
No shit Sherlock. At that moment, this became entertainment to me. You obviously are an asshat.
More hilariously though, is how you haven't been able to add anything to the discussion despite this whole time. Now maybe you're just trolling me too, but I'm cool with accepting the troll baits now. I've given you plenty of opportunity to add a discussion point of some kind of cultural, political, military, economic significance. But apparently the best you got is imperialism and more insults.
You don't know shit about this geographical area. You keep trying to pivot to Gaza in a topic about Chinese memes. I'm just trying to see where else you're going to go.
Yeah, your job isn't that more important than people's lives. Sorry to be the first person to tell you.
Can't take the slightest dig, I see. I guess I touched an insecurity.
Its not my job I'm worried about. Its the metric-fuck ton that's connected to 60% of the world's chip production that that island produces. As well as the lives of the citizens of Taiwan who'd be sacrificed upon your platter of ignorance, apathy and nihilism.
Hm you sure went on and on about the economics for a long time before even mentioning people.
Because jobs are important for keeping people's livelihoods.
I'm more shocked that you don't give a shit about people's standards of living, their wellbeings, or what they can provide for their families. But you don't care about anything now do you?
Do you even have any military friends or family? Do you even have any skin in the game with regards to the geopolitical decisions in this discussion? Or is this all just abstract whatever to you?
There's also a shortage of therapists, teachers, lots of career options for any tech workers who lose a job.
Yes, you want me to lose my job. Gotcha. You hate me and everything about me. It makes you so smart. Tech workers are worthless parasites.
I mean, if that's the world you want to live in, I'm not stopping you. Clearly I've touched a sore point here.
The world I want to live in is the one where we protect Taiwan from shitty people like you who'd abandon them in the next political fight.
Real talk.
So you want the US to be world police? Get in WW3 with China? Right I get it. You're a conservative. It's just, historically these interventionist wars have not gone well, and I don't think it's worth it to continue on that way.
I'll accept your discussion point as finally relevant to the topic and leave off here.
Your opening statements of "I don't care about your job, the tech field, or apparently anyone else" was hilariously bad. And honestly, I'm happy your argument form has improved to at least this level. We may disagree, but at least pretend to give a shit from the start next time, instead of taking this long to pretend to give a shit.
I don't think this comment is going to convince anyone of that interpretation of my opening comments...
No one except maybe the moderators will get anywhere close to this discussion, and only to delete our posts or issue whatever infractions exist on this sublemmy if they care to.
Even this meme is barely breaking 0 votes because its so shitty and apathetic to the current situation in the East.
There is a shortage of nurses, as I mentioned before. I'd prefer people lose their jobs, than to have people die in a war. You've stated several times that you think jobs are worth dying for, which, is just kinda sad honestly
Lulz. And you change the subject again. What do nurses have to do with shitty Chinese memes?
Do you care about Filipino immigrant families like me? The people building up the nurse population of your country? Or the geopolitical issues that we care about?
No, just the nurse part. Gotcha. We're just numbers to you and political talking points.
You're the one who brought up jobs, why don't you tell me Buster.
I'm not even going to answer your question about the military bc I don't think it's okay to use your loved ones for brownie points on an online argument.
Good. You're beginning to care and recognize how fucking apathetic you've sounded this whole time. About damn time you pretended to care about something. Its a good start and I hope you can pretend to care long enough for the next discussion you have rather than immediately reaching for the hurrr-durrr I'm more apathetic than you and therefore smarter button next time.
you're projecting a lot here. never did I say I was apathetic or smarter than you. idk now I honestly just think you should go to therapy lol
I've been saying the same points because you haven't refuted them whatsoever, lol. I don't think you will, because you genuinely want the US to be a strong empire, and we just will never see eye to eye on that being an acceptable goal for a nation.
You're literally the one who brought up imperialism. You're not even consistent, you're just kinda trolling I feel like.