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Members of the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol have warned America for three years to take former President Donald Trump at his word.

Now, as Trump is poised to win the Republican presidential nomination, his criminal trials face delays that could stall them past Election Day, and his rhetoric grows increasingly authoritarian, some of those lawmakers find themselves following their own advice.

In mid-March, Trump said on social media that the committee members should be jailed. In December he vowed to be a dictator on “day one.” In August, he said he would “have no choice” but to lock up his political opponents.

“If he intends to eliminate our constitutional system and start arresting his political enemies, I guess I would be on that list,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose). “One thing I did learn on the committee is to pay attention and listen to what Trump says, because he means it.”

Lofgren added that she doesn’t yet have a plan in place to thwart potential retribution by Trump. But Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), who has long been a burr in Trump’s side, said he’s having “real-time conversations” with his staff about how to make sure he stays safe if Trump follows through on his threats.

“We’re taking this seriously, because we have to,” Schiff said. “We’ve seen this movie before … and how perilous it is to ignore what someone is saying when they say they want to be a dictator.”

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[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago

Doesn't treason carry the death penalty? If they seriously think he's going to become a dictator and end democracy, he should be killed. The US government has had 0 problem doing it to leaders of other countries who did far less; why should Trump get special treatment? Just because he's a rich white guy? Hell, they've even set precedent under Obama that it's legal to drone strike US citizens on foreign soil for being terrorists. Get him next time he leaves the country.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Can we instead join the ranks of most countries and not do capital punishment?

Just disqualify him from becoming a public servant, and lock the man in a nice prison with access to educational programs and other social services. He needs a good history teacher and therapist.

Also, yes, stop all funding to the military and send the generals and their henchmen to the ICC to see if they should receive the same treatment.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He needs a good history teacher and therapist.

Absolute lib shit lmao. The man is 77 years old and has never faced consequences for his actions in his entire life. That's who he is. He's not going to suddenly reverse his entire personality because you made him talk with a therapist for a couple hours.

Like I understand the desire for rehabilitation, but some people are just fucked.

At any rate he deserves it for his war crimes alone.

[-] JimmieJam@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Not lib shit, just an actual ficking idiot. I'm a raging fucking lib and I'd drag Tump into the street and shoot him myself if I could. We literally had a world War over this shit and people still want kid gloves.

Owl here is clearly just a fucking sympathizer trying to muddy the water.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 8 months ago

A couple hours? He's very sick. I think he would need to see a therapist and study history every day for at least 20 years...

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Yes, he should be put in a reeducation camp. But we don't have one of those, do we?

[-] JimmieJam@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Dude what the actual fuck is wrong with you? Therapy doesn't fix sociopathic psychopathy lol.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

It can maybe help a person cope with it and reduce harmful behavior, but for real sending Trump to a therapist would just be cruel to the therapist.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

Look, it'd be great to abolish the death penalty, the army, and the current version of the government in favor of something more equitable and humane. But that's not the world we live in. Last year cops killed over 1000 people. In the america of today, under the laws that exist today, why should Trump not be killed?

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I dont hear an argument for why we can't lock them all up in a nice facility with access to educational programs and other social services to help them be rehabilitated.

Trump and most police need a lot of therapy and a proper education about US and world history.

Empty all of the prisons of folks charged with victimless "crimes" and you have plenty of space for white collar criminals and 99% of the police officers

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

hey, i can tell you're a good faith user and that's really great, we need more of those. thank you for that.

nobody is saying that what you're arguing for isn't a good thing, most people on hexbear would agree. their point is we can't just have that for rich assholes like trump, we should have that for everyone, and that's what should be happening. but the Democrats aren't going to do that. so to deal with him, at least for now, treat him like they do everyone who's jailed in america

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

hey, i can tell you're a good faith user

Are they? They seem like a bit

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

None of what you advocate can happen without revolution, and as a certain philosopher and activist said, “a revolution is not a dinner party.” It will be violent, and many people will die.

You can either have that, or you can have the Democrats/Republicans pretending to be the party of civility while they commit genocide. No ruling class in history has ever given up power peacefully.

[-] JimmieJam@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Owl here is just a fucking troll. Hopefully. Otherwise he's a massive fucking dumbass.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 8 months ago
[-] duderium@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

Are you suggesting that a state built on ongoing genocide and imperialism like Canada, or a backward, semi-colonial, semi-feudal country like India, are models that anyone in their right mind should follow?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Thete was plenty of violence in the struggle for Indian independence as well. Libs just only think of Ghandi

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