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Please, for the love of God, VOTE!
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He did. He wants Ukraine to accept that Russia has stolen their land and people. If it wasn't acceptable then he would want them to fight back.
you're mischaracterizing and making leaps of logic.
West is willing to accept Russia's demand for parts of Ukraine. That would be a requirement to stop the war. Unless you think West thinks Putin will give back what he has stolen?
he never said that
So what is his position? He doesn't support Ukraine defending itself. What does he support? He has stated he supports a negotiated end to the war. Negotiated. What do you think that means? It can ONLY mean Ukraine negotiates how much land Putin is allowed to steal.
he could mean total withdrawal and reparations. you are making leaps of logic.
Ok you're trolling me. Or do you believe in any situation where Russia is not defeated yet agrees to total withdrawal and reparations?
anything is possible if cornel west is elected
West shares Trumps view of Putin and would allow to re-arm and attack again. Both are opposed to NATO which would lead to a US exit of NATO and a large proliferation of nuclear weapons as countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear safety net and would have to build their own. The only reason we have so few nations without nuclear weapons is the existence of NATO. West/Trump are a threat to humanity.
you have no evidence for this
Evidence: Russia completed the theft of Crimea(while denying their active invasion of it) and immediately built up forces for another attack while denying it would ever attack Ukraine again all the while talking about how Ukraine isn't a real country. There is no evidence Russia will stop until it controls all of Ukraine as they have said they wanted to do many times.
West and Trump want to trust Putin...a verified(many times over) liar and willing to break agreements and treaties at any moment.
when did either of them say they trust putin? especially cornel west?
Negotiating for peace implies trust that the peace treaty will be followed...otherwise why negotiate the treaty?
right. that doesn't mean that they have said they do trust him.
They haven't said it but they would HAVE to do it to negotiate as they said they want to do. Yet Putin has proven himself untrustworthy over and over.
for different reasons. I oppose NATO, too.
Whats the alternative to a group agreement of protection and limit to nukes like NATO provides?
abolition of states
What do you mean? Abolition of the idea of sovereign countries?
yes
Then just abolish violence. Just as easy.
the existence of the state doesn't abolish violence, so why should that be the standard?
Wishing for all states to just stop existing is just as likely as wishing for all violence to be abolished. Why waste a wish?