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Was in an AP English class, and we were given a book on AP format for writing essays and such (think proper way to cite sources, alphabetize authors, other grammatical and formatting rules, etc). The class was given an example handout and told to group up into fours and go over the handout, finding mistakes and such based on the book previously mentioned.
When we went over it as a class, every group found basically every mistake except one. Every group missed this one mistake, and none of us flagged it because the book we were supposed to base all of this off of stated that it, in fact, was not a mistake. Since it was a graded assignment, we started debating with the teacher that since everyone didn't flag it, and the book we were given said it was actually correct, we shouldn't be penalized for it.
The teacher, however, refused, stating that it was incorrect based on AP formatting standards. Students even showed her, in the book we were given, where it said that the "mistake" was in fact correct. She refused to budge, and arguing continued.
The discussion ended when she (the teacher) finally said, "I'm the only one in this room with a Master's degree in English, you got it wrong, I'm not hearing further debate on this," and took the points off from all of us.
Same thing happened with a math teacher (who was an absolute piece of shit, literally everyone including the staff hated him, but that's for another time). Everyone got a problem wrong, and when he went over it, several students pointed out the answer we all got was correct based on how we were initially shown how to solve the problem. He pulled the same "I'm the only one here with a degree in mathematics, so none of you are getting the points for it because you're just wrong."
Several students went to other math teachers and showed it to them, who in turn went to the piece of shit and not only pointed out that he was wrong, but the head of the math department was basically demanding either the points be restored or the question thrown out. The next class he went on a long spiel about how "after conversing with several of my other academic colleagues, it was brought to my attention it was a poorly designed question, and thus I will be removing it from all of the tests."
Just fucking admit when you're wrong, all you're teaching us with your fancy degrees is that you're a prick and to resent authority figures.
This is correct; there is a section in the Aviation Instructor's Handbook about this. It is important for a teacher to establish themselves as a subject matter expert, you absolutely should appear knowledgeable and competent. There are ways to do this wrong. For instance, if you don't know something, just make shit up. If a student asked a question I didn't know the answer to, I had a go-to technique for handling it: I would turn it into a lesson on aviation reference materials. "What book would you look for that in? Let's see if we can go find it." Another way to undermine your own credibility is to insist you're right no matter what. Your students WILL see through that and it WILL undermine your credibility.
And it's one thing to pull that shit when you're a high school English teacher and you're not responsible for anyone else's safety. A flight instructor is not only a teacher, but also sometimes the only qualified airman on the plane. "I don't want to fly with you anymore, you scare me. A real expert pilot doesn't have to pretend to know what he's talking about."
Your students are smart, capable scholars and they should be respected as such. It's remarkable how many people are in education professions that don't get this.
Yeesh. I've had teachers that will give points back if all (or nearly all) students get a question wrong on a test because they know it's more likely their own failure than the students. Maybe the question is confusing or poorly worded, maybe the material wasn't covered or it's too difficult with the amount of time available.