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Report – Unsafe: Meta Fails to Moderate Extreme Anti-trans Hate Across Facebook, Instagram, and Threads | GLAAD - might be a reason to defederate from Threads (glaad.org)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Blaze@dormi.zone to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 73 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Way ahead of you. What benefit is there even in federating with Threads? I tried looking at the front page and it's almost exclusively "ads as posts" or wannabe influencers trying to attract an audience.

Even wilder, most of the posts Threads show me on the front page have like, less than 10 replies. I saw one (1) post with close to 200 replies. Even the Fediverse has more engagement than this!

[-] sunaurus@lemm.ee 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This "ads as posts" thing was one of my two biggest concerns with Threads federation. I really hoped I would turn out to be wrong about it, but at the end of the day, both Facebook itself, as well as big social media influencers, rely on advertising for their profits. For anybody looking to avoid ads on Lemmy, it seems like direct federation with Threads is not a good idea currently. On lemm.ee, "no advertising" has been one of our 4 core instance rules from the start.

My other major concern was Threads having the ability to enforce their feed algorithms on federated instances through sheer number of votes on things they show in their feeds, but judging by what you're saying about the engagement, at least that concern has not materialized (at least yet).

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 28 points 5 months ago

For anybody looking to avoid ads on Lemmy, it seems like direct federation with Threads is not a good idea currently.

It will never be a good idea to federated with threads. There will always be some kind of malicious behavior from threads that makes federating with threads a terrible idea.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Appreciate everything you do for us here! ✊

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

For anybody looking to avoid ads on Lemmy, it seems like direct federation with Threads is not a good idea currently.

Can Lemmy federate with Threads?

I can follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon (but don't because it just fills your feed with an avalanche of out-of-context posts).

I can't follow anyone on Mastodon from Lemmy (and while I think it is, or should be, possible from kBin, that doesn't seem to work well yet).

So how can a Lemmy instance federate with Threads and how would their micro-blog posts turn up on Lemmy?

I'm not remotely bothered by federation on Mastodon because there is no algorithm pushing crap on me there. I'll get what I follow and nothing else.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago

Theoretically but in actuality no. All Lemmy content is accessed through communities and since threads content isn’t associated with a community, there is no way to actually access it.

This could change with future iterations of Lemmy but for now I think all this ranting and arguing is completely moot.

It is more relevant if you use mastodon but I don’t.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 5 months ago

Can Lemmy federate with Threads?

Yes, in the same way that Mastodon and Lemmy federate at the moment. It's all using ActivityPub underneath, which is the protocol of the Fediverse essentially.

You can't follow individuals with Lemmy but you can see Mastodon user's comments on posts and Mastodon users will see your comments and posts on Mastodon with certain hashtags, I believe.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

Mastodon is unusable if you follow Lemmy communities, so no one does.

But that wasn't my question. If a Lemmy instance I am on federates with Threads, how do I find people on Threads, follow them, and have their posts appear in my Lemmy feed? The people who are saying it can be done are not also explaining how it can be done. You seem to be saying, in a roundabout way, that it cannot be done?

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 5 months ago

how do I find people on Threads, follow them, and have their posts appear in my Lemmy feed?

As I said, you cannot do this with Lemmy (at this time at least). Lemmy only supports following communities. Threads users will be able to post to communities and comment on posts and vote as well, and you can reply to them and they'll see your replies too. It federates in that way.