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China's real youth unemployment rate could actually be close to 50% - more than double the official rate (www.businessinsider.com)

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[-] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Falun Gong is a cult that believes that following their religion makes your body physically healthier because it aligns the metaphysical energies of your body in a special way. This they say means they have the juciest most bestest organs that the Chinese government wants because they're the BEST GOD DAMN ORGANS around, which is why they actively spread this myth. All of your above sources cite the Falun Gong, or claim that it happened to the Falun Gong such as in your second link:

“Usually these Falun Gong practitioners were injected with a shot to cause heart failure. During the process these people would be pushed into operating rooms to have their organs removed,”

I strongly urge you to watch this video. It is not a pro-china source, it is a liberal source. I think you might come away from it with many questions and when you start realising that literally every single one of these is coming from, or about, or linked to falun gong in some way it becomes impossible to ignore what the source is.

[-] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Wow, this is a rabbit hole and a half. I really can't agree with you though that all those sources are from the Falun Gong, as many of them talk about this same practice being performed on Uyghurs. Also many of those sources are from doctors who performed the harvests, not from Falun Gong members talking about how it's happening. A lot of the evidence is circumstantial, pointing to the fact that the Chinese transplant industry boomed in the early 2000s with no real explanation of where all these organs came from. There are no corresponding increases in voluntary donations, and the speed at which these organs are delivered suggests a sort of on demand execution and harvest system.

It's important to note, the Falun Gong being a cult really doesn't have any bearing on whether or not China is executing political dissidents for organs to fuel their massive transplant industry. Both "the Falun Gong is a crazy cult" and "China is executing prisoners and selling their organs" can be true.

[-] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

>I really can’t agree with you though that all those sources are from the Falun Gong

I can connect all of your sources to an obsession with Falun Gong incredibly easily.

First link: Google the author, Ruth Ingram. This is a fake name used to spread literally nothing but organ harvesting content that ALL mentions Falun Gong.

Second link: Wang Guoqi's claim is solely about Falun Gong.

Third link: Is just a wikipedia page so we should be tossing this out anyway. Several citations are Falun Gong though.

Fourth link: Relies mainly on presenting ChinaTribunal as a legitimate court tribunal by real courts when it is in fact a propaganda outlet. This "independent tribunal" gets presented as such and its conclusion is dadadadadadadaaaaa - that Falun Gong members are the primary source of organs that China harvests. It then vaguely connects this to Uighurs later in the article but offers literally zero evidence, only accusations.

You will not find anything on this topic that you can disconnect from Falun Gong. It is impossible because Falun Gong is the source of it. I can stick around and enjoy going down this rabbit hole with you though if you want to try, I am quite happy to be a wall you bounce things off, it's pretty crazy.