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[โ€“] Carrolade@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When did I ever say they have insider knowledge that I cannot receive? I mean, for starters they absolutely do, they have access to intelligence reports and various classified things that would be illegal for me to see. But that's mainly just to do with the military, so whatever.

But I haven't been talking about any insider knowledge, just you have. I've been talking about issues, and the importance of having to actually work at getting an understanding.

There are only issues, and solutions. That's it. Also known as policy ideas. Should taxes be higher or lower. What percent. Tiered or flat. Etc etc etc. It's not mysterious or magical. It's just complicated, but you can learn it all if you put some work in.

How about immigration? How about education funding? How about welfare reform? They're just issues dude, solved with things like laws and policies. You need to learn them, not just handwave shit away as "ooooh insider knowledge is good/bad/whatever". You want to generalize it seems, but you shouldn't. Everything is specific, its own rabbit hole to be learned. Knowing one does not mean you know others. They're like subjects in school. If you get really good at math, then you know a lot of math. You can even judge if a math teacher is a good math teacher or not. It doesn't make you know history though.

That's like a politician. If you know a lot about immigration policy, you can judge which politicians are good at it, and which are fucking garbage. This is smart to do, so you know.

You should know which ones are good and bad. If you don't, that's not their fault, it's yours. That's commonly called a "civic duty", to understand the issues in your country. At least somewhat, you know? Nobody has time to become a real expert. But you can become fluent.

[โ€“] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The very idea they have unique knowledge implies insider knowledge.

That's why I went on to say how real professionals can explain even highly detailed and complex things to those without intricate knowledge anyways.

I'm trying to hold up a mirror so you can see that you do indeed seem to have some faith that politicians are competent, regardless of what knowledge you or they possess.

That faith is misplaced. Always. My entire point is politicians are specifically vile "professionals" who specifically will not ever explain the actual reasons for things. You cannot ever treat them as if they know a damn thing.

When they say, "it's complicated." it's because they don't want to explain it because they know you won't like the answer.

That's it. Period. THEY are the professionals that should be able to explain a complex thing simply, are they not? Why do they constantly choose not to, and why do you constantly fail to see the problem with that?

[โ€“] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Okay, when did I say they had unique knowledge then? Asides classified stuff, that doesn't count. You keep saying that. I keep saying it's not unique, you just don't want to go learn it.

So, they sometimes actually do explain things, Katie Porter for instance was pretty well-known for going into detail. Did you ever try listening to her, assuming you're American? Did you watch Biden's recent State of the Union? He explained several policy plans he has, though not in particularly great detail, it was just a speech. Do you listen, ever?

The main problem is you seem to expect them to come to you, wherever your media bubble is, and teach you everything. That's again, not their job. It's not their purpose. All the time they spend campaigning, trying to convince Joe-schmoe to vote for them, is time they aren't doing their actual jobs of governing the country.

Again, they're not teachers. They're not salesmen. We do not vote for people to teach us, we should not vote for them to sell themselves to us. We vote for them to make our rules. They already campaign way too fucking much.