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[-] WallEx@feddit.de 108 points 3 months ago

So they should also make it legal to rip that shit out or force the automakers to give customers that option.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 3 months ago

The article is talking about lorry drivers making trips for work though. I am not sure I understand the need for the drivers to conceal their location while they work?

But otherwise I agree.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago

Potentially to skirt driving time limits?

Many lorry drivers are paid by the trip. If they get stuck in traffic, they are losing money. They are also required to take regular breaks, to avoid fatigue. If they jammed the GPS, then the company can't prove they didn't take their break, and worked through, to make up time.

It also allows for disallowed detours. "Sorry boss, I was stuck in traffic for over an hour". In fact they went for a pub lunch, on the clock.

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 5 points 3 months ago

Hm yeah in a working context its different, but still, why would they need to be tracked, other then MAYBE logistics (which lorry drivers would be), so yeah, gets muddy

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Some insurance companies require tracking devices on commercial accounts. One of my clients it's required to use them as part of their policy.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Isn't the man calling to ask where they are, when they need to know, good enough? Unless it's been stolen what's to be gained by spooky spying?

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

When you have a fleet of 500 vehicles all over the place at various stages work. Calling each one isn't really practical.

Managing fleets of vehicles is greatly helped by knowing where the vehicles are.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I don't see how it's "greatly" helps at all in practice.

Worst case you have routes which drastically fluctuate in driver demand and you're sending drivers to cover multiple routes a day, and hiring more drivers is probably the better solution.

Calling drivers seemed to be really practical before GPS existed, at best you can argue it's more efficient for the boss.

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You need less workers to track other workers. Instead you have devices that you pay for one time instead of a salary in theory. I'd guess the bean counters have looked at it and figured it saves money in salary and also in other ways.

I know that UPS was (and I assume still is but I have not l been with the company in about 15 years) big into telematics. I remember one of their biggest safety concerns was backing and they knew how many times you did it and if you did it before or after you parked. If you backed over a certain amount of times per day or if you did it once after parking and turning off your package car, you'd be in with management being questioned about it.

[-] thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

This article centers on those driving work vehicles that their employer has installed trackers on. I know recently auto makers have been found snooping, which I don't even have words for, but this isn't that.

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah, looks like I misinterpreted a bit

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