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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Nuuskis@sopuli.xyz to c/linux@lemmy.ml

SystemD is blamed for long boot times and being heavy and bloated on resources. I tried OpenRC and Runit on real hardware (Ryzen 5000-series laptop) for week each and saw only 1 second faster boot time.

I'm old enough to remember plymouth.service (graphical image) being the most slowest service on boot in Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04. But I don't see that as an issue anymore. I don't have a graphical systemD boot on my Arch but I installed Fedora Sericea and it actually boots faster than my Arch despite the plymouth (or whatever they call it nowadays).

My 2 questions:

  1. Is the current SystemD rant derived from years ago (while they've improved a lot)?
  2. Should Linux community rant about bigger problems such as Wayland related things not ready for current needs of normies?
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[-] gnumdk@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Just try to implement user session management on a non systemd distro...

Systemd is way better than others init system. I'm using Alpine Linux on my phone and I really wait for a Fedora/Arch like PMOS project (it's on the way)

[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

[pi@raspberry]# sudo su

Just saying, not everyone needs session management...

[-] SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

sudo su

Why spawn additional process when you can get into shell directly with sudo -s?

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago

Well, sudo itself is a purely optional component—you can run a system quite happily with just su .

[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because I already had my fingers closer to "su" than to "-s"... but more seriously, because I tend to use sudo -E su on a remote terminal with a PS1 set to colorize the prompt based on whether I'm running root and the host if it's remote, but sudo -E -s doesn't run the root's .bashrc that runs the updated colorization while at the same time exports too much of the user's environment into the root shell.

[-] wgs@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

What do you do with all the process you save with that trick ?

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