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The choice is pretty easy:
Aid and support to Israel
Or
Aid and support to Israel, and give Ukraine to Russia, and give Taiwan to China, and implement fascism at home
A choice created by people who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries.
Buddy, your opinion on me and my intelligence is irrelevant. You understand that right? Thinking that you have any business sharing that opinion is what's childish.
If you want to be an adult then the adult conversation to have with yourself is to realize your preferred candidate either needs my vote and so your best option to get it is to join me in my efforts to affect a policy or your preferred candidate doesn't need my vote. I recognize the choice before me and have made mine. Now it's your turn to do the same.
You live in make believe world where you think your ideas change reality. Tell me how abstaining and allowing Trump to get elected, makes your life better? Fuck all the other people you're fucking over, literally killing, in some cases. YOU. WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM A TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN JAN?
abstaining from voting for genocidal geriatrics is doing the right thing. it's an end in itself.
So the 66% of the population who don't vote for no particular reason at all are, "doing the right thing."
that's a leap of logic
It's functionally the same. All you've done is exclude yourself from the system just like what the majority of people do every cycle.
that's a consequentialist view of ethics, and one to which i don't subscribe
nonconsequentialist ethics are strongly preferred by professional philosophers, so someone here might be ignorant, but it's not me.
Professional philosophers! Oh, I'm sold.
they're the experts on ethics
They are! They are professionals!
Removed, rule 3:
"Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!"
No it isn't. You're not standing out or standing up. Nobody knows the difference why you stayed home and let Trump get elected.
the individuals who abstained for moral reasons know.
And don't affect change. You might as well never have been born, as far as your impact. So it sounds like this is actually only about your moral high ground. That's cool. Means nothing when Trump is president. Brilliant plan.
doing the right thing is always right.
To be clear, you're not ENTIRELY wrong. But don't attack other users. Removed, rule 3:
"Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!"
it's not to prove anything. as you said, I'm likely the only person who will know.
No I believe my behavior changes reality. Not only that, you believe my behavior changes reality.
Yes. Your behavior changes things. Not how you imagine it. That's why you're dangerous.
Compromise with people like me or lose to MAGA. That's the choice in front of you.
@mods this guy has told me to "shut the fuck up" multiple times, called me a "bastard" and here they are calling me a "terrorist". Am I allowed to respond in kind or does this kind of behavior eventually result in a ban?
Won't get him a ban, but definitely removed for rule 3.
Ack. Thanks.
Removed, literally for rule 3:
"Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!"