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Sealioning (lemmy.world)
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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 7 months ago

Is there a difference between sealioning and just asking for verification of a bold claim? On a forum such as Lemmy, where people are encouraged to have unsolicited debate in the comments, are we by nature immune from the worst aspects of sealioning?

[-] PinkOwls@feddit.de 13 points 7 months ago

To add one more aspect: When someone writes a reply asking for a source, did they actually do a short Google-search related to the claim? It basically takes the same time to just look at the summary of the search results as asking for a source. So I assume if someone asks for verification for an easily searchable fact, then they are acting in bad faith.

Also one more thing: If you notice someone acting in bad faith, don't engage with them. Downvote them, move on. This is especially true for the next few months until the US elections are over. You will notice it a day after the elections that the quality of discussions will increase because the bad faith actors will take a vacation. What happened on Reddit in 2016 is happening here right now.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

When someone writes a reply asking for a source, did they actually do a short Google-search related to the claim?

no one is responsible for supporting our argument except you.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I feel the same. If you are making claims with no source people should be allowed to ask for the source without needing to look themselves.

[-] PDFuego@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Exactly. If I ask someone for a source on something I feel is wrong it's because I specifically want to know the information they're working from. If I look it up straight away and send them a link that says they're wrong straight out of the gate they aren't even going to open it.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Do you have any evidence supporting your position that this is the proper way to debate a sealion?

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