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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

There are also a large amount of people who understand this and are intentionally acting as if they don't. This is just this round's version of the 'walk away' people from previous elections.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago

Walk away is such a shitty psyop. I feel bad for anyone stupid enough to fall for the obvious bullshit.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

Some people love genocide so much they cannot imagine anyone opposing it without ulterior motives.

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Some people love to argue in bad faith.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

Is there a good faith argument that can be made in favor of supporting genocide?

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago

No one is supporting genocide. Hence why Oderus implied you were arguing in bad faith. Quit now before you make an ass of yourself.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

"Opposition to genocide isn't real", is pretty close to supporting it.

A young man just lit himself on fire to protest our complicity in the genocide, this isn't a made up issue. The people up in arms in my social feeds aren't faceless Russians, they the people who would work past campaigns and donate to Democrats.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

Biden circumvented congress to sell weapons to Netanyahu for genocide. That's support for genocide.

You can't justify support for genocide, and I doubt you want Biden to stop doing so. So let's see which Standard Centrist Dismissal you select instead.

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Just like @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com said, no one is arguing for genocide so you're not arguing in good faith. Imagine being so blind and you think Trump and Biden are the same. Unreal how reductive some people are.

If it were possible, you would be ashamed of your comment but here you are.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Imagine being so blind and you think Trump and Biden are the same.

I didn't say that either. Biden should stop supporting genocide.

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Biden has already been critical about the actions of Israel. Trump is in full support so when you say Biden should do X when you know his opposition would lean HARD into X, you are saying they're the same when one is clearly worse.

People like you love to make things black and white when the reality is shades of grey. Israel has the right to defend itself against the Hamas attack that killed over 1000 Israelis. They do not have the right to inflict genocide on anyone and whether or not you think Biden supports it ( hint hint: he doesn't) that doesn't mean Israel is going to stop.

Maybe you're just young and need to grow up a bit. Who knows? I just know your arguments are garbage.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Biden has already been critical about the actions of Israel.

He sold them weapons that he knew would be used for genocide. His tepid criticism is literally the words of a politician. His actions are clear.

and whether or not you think Biden supports it ( hint hint: he doesn’t)

Selling them weapons is support.

that doesn’t mean Israel is going to stop.

That doesn't mean we have to help them.

People like you love to make things black and white when the reality is shades of grey.

Listen to yourself sometime. We're talking about genocide here. If ever there was something that is clearly morally wrong in all cases, it's genocide. Biden should stop supporting Netanyahu's genocide.

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

You're so clueless I can't believe I ever bothered engaging with such a child. Grow the fuck up.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

And since you can't justify support for genocide, you go for the Standard Centrist Dismissal.

You should stop supporting genocide.

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