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[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

That is hilariously untrue, have you any idea how big that news would be? They don't even know if Arimathea was a real place, we certainly don't know about Jesus family - none of them are mentioned outside the limited references in the Bible

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The very first sentence in Wikipedia describes it as pseudoarchaeological docudrama. Got to love it.

Why does your sky zombie hate you so much he gives you such bad evidence?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I don't believe in the Bible lol

But the historical figure existed. It's not an amalgamation of fantasy. He was likely nothing like his imagery in pop culture.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Ok so if you don't believe in the Bible what is your source of information that he existed?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Do you believe Alexander the Great existed? Or Cleopatra? Or Socrates?

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Ok so if you don’t believe in the Bible what is your source of information that he existed?

You are making the claim it is on you to defend it. If I say unicorns exist I have to provide evidence for it not demand that other people defend every single aspect of their life.

So what is the source for your claim for Jesus given that you have thrown out already pretty much all the evidence we have?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

My claim is that someone found something archeology that coincides with the history. I claim that Socrates or Cleopatra exist too. I don't subscribe to her seducing men. I can separate the historical likely from the myths created around them.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I would like to see a bit more than the Talpiot Tomb. All the names are common enough and so many tombs were discovered they were bound to find one that sorts matched up. You know when you ignore all the parts that don't. Like why is there a reference to Jesus' wife and son, how did a poor family afford that tomb, etc.

Basically I am asking just because you found a room with the name Jesus son of Joseph on it how do you know it is the Jesus of Christianity?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

No. The documentary examins all of the family. And the mathematical probability of those names occuring during that time. Which was only 200 years. Which was the time he died. And ostuaries were common then.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I am not watching your discovery channel documentary. The wiki article on the tomb is enough.

Justify the corruption they used to get the name Mary.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I'm bored with this. Watch it or don't. I don't care. But most people agree he was at least a figure in history. Same as others that don't have pictures or physical evidence. And there are many myths. Just as everyone else from anyone over 2000 years ago.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

most people agree

95% of the human race believes in the supernatural

Same as others that don’t have pictures or physical evidence

Smaller claims

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Then go take a collegiate history course and understand how history is interpreted and leave some guy on the Internet with an education of such things alone.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Nah just produce the evidence for your Messiah. It shouldn't be all that difficult.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Go prove that Socrates, Cleopatra and Plato existed first. Then I know I'm dealing with someone smart enough to understand how statistics work.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

No. I don't have to prove gravity existed because you believe in unicorns.

Try personally attacking me again maybe that will make your Messiah real.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Now now I am sure Jesus doesn't want you to talk that way to me. He did say love your enemies. Think you need to read your Bible more maybe talk to your shaman tomorrow after group pretend time.

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