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I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from but concussions are probably one of the plethora of shitty things that you actually aren't exposed to during training. Concussions and TBI are common because of close contact with explosives in combat zones mostly, not in training.
Of course I'm not defending the military and their practices, I was in the Marine Corps myself, this bit is just not true though.
This whole comment section is full of people who never served talking like they know what it’s like.
it's not a literal concussion. It turns out the percussive blasts that shit like mortars are artillery produce are akin to concussive injuries to the brain. (with enough and repeated exposure, much like concussions) Which isn't really surprising when you think about it.
I will say the irony of someone who was in the military discounting this is pretty funny though.
I wouldn't call it ironic. You claimed that US military training causes permanent irreversible brain damage and referenced concussions as the cause. This is just has no hard evidence to back it up. And your comment here states something that was not your original claim and has not actually been studied and peer reviewed on anything except for a few studies on mice, where those studies indicate that it's hard to equivocate these outcomes to humans for a number of reasons. I'm not claiming that exposure to sub-concussive blasts isn't dangerous or injuring peoples brains, it probably is but I don't know for sure whether it does or not since it's not actually proven. Just stating, once again, that training is not responsible for actual concussions except in rare circumstances like accidental injury, almost all of these injuries occur in actual combat. Further, a majority of US service members are never even exposed to sub-concussive blasts, so there is only a small subset which your claim would even apply to in the first place.
I'm not trying to tear down your comments or defend the US military's practices, I just don't think making these types of claims without legitimate proof is useful or appropriate. If I've missed something that proves everything I've said wrong I'm perfectly happy to be corrected.
i referenced concussions because they are similar, and it was also a joke, hence the fact it was put into parenthesis. That wasn't meant to be taken straight up.
To my knowledge, there have been studies done in the military on the effects of continual and repeated sub-concussive blasts (if that's the correct term) that show some form of damage. It's also been said that after the results of these studies coming out with potentially bad impacts, that they were pretty quickly shut down. Not to mention i've seen a number of people who have been in the military as well as people who know those who have been in the military provide anecdotal evidence of it.
It's certainly not solid evidence, but for something like a federal military, that's pretty concerning.