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and half this country wants to see these kind of headlines coming from ours. 😢
Not half. Never forget that the insane, reactionary conservatives are a minority in this country. They're just extremely loud.
They're only a "minority" because a third of the country will happily sit on the sidelines while they try to kill the other third.
They’re a solid 30%. Which means they’re life or death for their party. Which means they get their way. They’re as influential as any other group, or even more successful than others with similar numbers. I don’t see how we can just wave that away as “they’re a minority.”
They are a minority by population but US elections are by county and state. This is the last presidential election:
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2020_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg#mw-jump-to-license
Everyone thinks that because Biden won the last election everything is fine and they can go back to ignoring elections.
US elections are mostly by state not by county. You can see states that voted blue despite being majority red on the county level. And Alaska is the opposite example where county level seems more blue but the state is red. It's a misleading map because it doesn't represent population density. Most of red counties are low population areas.
The state distribution however is kinda BS, but the real reason republicans can have power with a clear minority is because of the FPTP voting that prefers a two party system instead of a multiparty system. GOP would be far more fringe party if more alternatives existed.
Half the people who vote. Technically the others don't matter to the system.
Oh, I know, speaking in euphemisms. Maybe I should have said half the electorate (which I know is still not completely accurate). Point is, there is a real chance he gets elected and if so, we’re fucked. I’m not taking chances by downplaying the danger.
Why you call insane right-wing reformists conservatives?
Because conservatives have always been insane right-wing "reformists".
When someone wants turn your country into shithole that iy is they are reformists. Reformists and conservatives aren't good and bad. In some countries (15-ish former republics) conservatives are left-wing.
The conservative movement traces directly back to royalists following the French revolution. They looked at the same world as Marx and decided to go the exact opposite way. Ultimately, conservatives are feudalistic.
They were conservatives back there back then.
This is World News. We're not all from America.
You are right, apologies, I'm talking from the US perspective but we aren't alone, same could be said from several..
We assumed way too much that our country is split in half. Conservatives are much less than half but due to gerrymandering and voter suppression tactics are not targeted towards them. They are cheating to make you think it's half.
Right, but that’s what I’m talking about. It may not be half, but we need half to overcome it based on their cheating. I wasn’t speaking mathematically, more in terms of the power structure.
Don't forget the tankies though, they luv this shit too
What country?
US but IMHO there's several places that could say the same.
"This country" This is world news thread, and even then is a UK news article. Americans and their damn elections ..
You are right, and I apologize again. Once again through I will say, while it came from an (admittedly self centered) American point of view, there’s plenty of other places that it could have just as easily come from.