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Canadians wonder why the fuck Democrats simply dont arrest him for criminal activity
Because we don't want to interfere with the system and make it a politically orchestrated arrest.
The normal forces that be are working on it... It's just taking time... Due process and all that jazz
Dead wrong. The only reason it's "political" is because the fucking Telecommunications Act hasnt been violently repealed.
This is not an "it takes time" issue. It's a criminal offensive. Incrementalist bullshit is why we have fascist threats now.
Part of the problem is that they're trying to not give him anything he can appeal.
Prosecution like this can take a while to happen because you only get one shot at it, and it's vital that it doesn't fail for bullshit reasons.
How does that work for private citizens or bottom ranked government employees who steal government documents and try to sell them to foreign nations? Do we go slow and try to get it right because there's only one shot at it and you dont want it to fail for bullshit reasons?
Those people don't have a cult of millions of deranged terrorists itching to violently overthrow the government and a good chance at being president again (which would be the end of our country).
Sometimes you have to be patient to get your desired outcome.
But, just look at Al Capone. We knew he was guilty as fuck for a long time, but it took a long time to build a case to put him away, even if it was just for tax fraud.
The cult doesnt go away, and they have to be dealt with as a violent domestic terrorist threat also. Because THEY ARE.
I'm not arguing against that, but some situations require a more nuanced approach. Just arresting him and throwing him in prison would make him a martyr to his cult of dumbasses
I get what you're saying but even if every I is dotted and every T crossed and he goes to jail, he'll still be a martyr.
his cult can't be reasoned with and the process doesn't matter to them. who it DOES matter to are the swing voters and ones that havnt gone off the deepend. if you ignore process, you lose those people and democracy ends. follow the process and at least some of them will have the sense to agree with the process
I understand that. What I'm saying is that the cult is going to react poorly no matter how he is prosecuted. Still, I do get that rules need to be followed, especially in this case.
So, literally: do not apprehend villain because bystander feefees will be hurt.
So your answer is that you are too afraid of Trump to properly enforce the law.
I'm sorry about your reading comprehension. You might try reading more books to improve it.
Oh, sweetheart, if you can find the courage to try to insult me, then you can scrape together enough courage to demand Democrats hold Trump accountable.
I wasn't insulting you, I was stating a fact. Your reading comprehension is clearly lacking if you drew that conclusion from my statement.
Yeah sure you are, now take that insulting attitude and direct it towards the Democrats. Go on, show some integrity for once in your life.
Or you can choose to keep wasting oxygen fruitlessly attacking me and prove to everyone you're just a moral coward who has no principles or scruples. Your choice.
Sounds like criticisms of your reading comprehension upsets you. Try reading more so it doesn't keep happening.
There's nothing that cannot be appealed. Just look at the last round of fighting over his slander of Eugene Caroll. He lost that legal fight fair and square and he'll be appealing it up the chain for the next decade to avoid making any kind of payments.
This is a bullshit excuse to drag your heels and do nothing.
Investigating, bringing charges against, and prosecuting a large scale criminal enterprise does not happen overnight.
You can say I'm "dead wrong" all you want but if this happened "instantly" or anywhere near instantly, it would not be sound, and it would not be right.
Trump would walk because they jumped the gun and entered the room under prepared.
This isn't a gang, the Democrats can't just say "go throw him in jail" and even if they could I would argue that would be a bad thing. Political prosecution is the opposite of a system running on the rule of law which is what the US system aspires to be.
Every arrest is politically orchestrated. That is the nature of a public sector police force.
What shields Trump isn't politics but power. He's got armies of angry old white guys - many of whom occupy the very offices that would be charged with his arrest, prosecution, and imprisonment - and Biden's gang is terrified that if they were to actually demand his siezer they would be the ones in handcuffs by the end.
Oh give me a break.
Parties don't arrest people, the justice system does.
It is the President's #1 job to protect the country from all threats to it and it's Constitution and from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
Biden is failing at his NUMBER ONE JOB.
Flexing his power to attack his political rivals is exactly what he needs to avoid doing. That is what Trump is doing and has been doing and that is the problem. If Biden has to step in, we've already failed.
It is in everyone's best interest that the current President does not do anything other than watch the justice system play out, just like every other US citizen.
There is no action that he can take that will not make things worse.
It is literally his #1 job. It has nothing to do with pilitical rivalry. The fact that the terrorist if a former president is utterly irrelevant. You are just trying to make excuses to allow trump back into office.
Couldn't be further from what I want. What I don't want to do is to give the Republicans, or any party reason to argue that whatever measures are taken against Trump are not lawful. It needs to be unambiguous that he violated the law of the land and establish that precedent so that executive action is not required, encouraged, needed or possibly even allowed. Otherwise we have accomplished literally nothing to protect our democracy, quite the opposite, in fact. Presidential decree is not law and can't be expected to survive one administration to the next.
Calling it his number 1 job is hyperbole unless it stands up in court. And if it does, I will agree with you, just show me the court case.
That's the point of checks and balances; to draw a clear separation of power.
As CinC of the armed forces, his number one job is to defend the country from theeats both foreign and domestic. There is no court case necessary.
Trump has declared out loud in no uncertain terms that his intention is to destroy both democracy and representative republicanism in a direct attack on the US Constitution.
Biden's number one job is to apprehend him.
And what happens when one of his Republican boot lickers buddies get into office? They can either undo it and let him go or use similar justification to imprison their political rivals even if it's not as clear cut.
It would be much better for the justice system to handle it. If they don't, then maybe Biden will need to, but as I said, that is an overall loss if he is forced to.
What do you rhink is gonna happen if republican boot lickers are allowed into office right now?
That would require Democrats to do something that wasn't bipartisan.