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‘Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism (www.theguardian.com)

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Teachers describe a deterioration in behaviour and attitudes that has proved to be fertile terrain for misogynistic influencers

“As soon as I mention feminism, you can feel the shift in the room; they’re shuffling in their seats.” Mike Nicholson holds workshops with teenage boys about the challenges of impending manhood. Standing up for the sisterhood, it seems, is the last thing on their minds.

When Nicholson says he is a feminist himself, “I can see them look at me, like, ‘I used to like you.’”

Once Nicholson, whose programme is called Progressive Masculinity, unpacks the fact that feminism means equal rights and opportunities for women, many of the boys with whom he works are won over.

“A lot of it is bred from misunderstanding and how the word is smeared,” he says.

But he is battling against what he calls a “dominance-based model” of masculinity. “These old-fashioned, regressive ideas are having a renaissance, through your masculinity influencers – your grifters, like Andrew Tate.”

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[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you may not accept it but 'return to monke' was stared by the Boogaloo Boys and if you know who they are you know why this is a problem.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you have any source for that? It sounds just like people who think pepe is a hate symbol...

When in reality, it was just co-opted by the racists and the MSM decided it was then only a hate symbol.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That depends how comfortable you are with searching the darkweb. Some of their forums are still up.

shitler co-opted a certain now worldwide hated symbol too, the hard right loves taking innocent things and staining them with blood.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OK, so some "dark web" source that you insist is definitely proof that they created return to monke, as opposed to the alternative on know your meme cataloging the first example?

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Look man, nothing I will tell you will change your mind.

Go see it for yourself and form your own opinion.