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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel isn't going to stop

Could have just finished your sentence there. They only care about the hostages for political optics and they know as well as anyone that you don't stop terrorism just by killing the leaders. Their goal is to kill or displace as many Gazans as possible and then take over the area and the fossil gas on the coast. Everything else is just pretense.

Civilian casualties are a by product of war.

Israel are killing TWICE as many civilians as Hamas, though, by their own admission. They refuse to prove it though, so it's probably much worse in reality. That's not a by-product. That's genocide.

This war won't end until the objectives have been accomplished.

Unless the West stops them, you're right about that, even as you're completely wrong about what the actual objectives are.

Of course it would all be over if Hamas surrendered,

First of all it wouldn't. Second of all, their radical ideology makes surrender impossible.

the internet meme version of "genocide" Israel is accused of

These are the actual criteria as per the genocide convention, for it to qualify as a genocide:

any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:

  • Killing members of the group; ✅️
  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; ✅️
  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; ✅️
  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; ✅️
  • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. ❓️

So as you see, it's not a meme. By the official and only pertinent definition of genocide, the Israeli government IS committing genocide.