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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by _bug0ut@lemmy.world to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world

For the first time in my life, I'm in the market for a personal MBP. I had to get my ancient MBP for work replaced last week and they sent me one of the new 14" M2 Pro models and I absolutely love it. As I spent more time with it, I decided I think I want a piece of the new MBP line.

During the course of my initial belaboring of the options (primarily: 14 vs 16, M2 Pro vs Max) and the fact that I'm a manchild who doesn't want to wait 3 weeks for a more customized build, I've kind of landed on the default configurations for the M2 Max in both 14 and 16 inch - this would allow me to simply pay for the thing online with my Apple card, get my monthly installments, and just leave the house and go push through the throngs of people at the Apple store to pick it up near instantly. I popped by an Apple store y esterday just to get some face-to-face time with a 16 inch to decide if I could stomach the size.

I have an old ThinkPad X1 Big Dong Xtreme Edition or whatever ridiculous marketing name it had and that thing is 17" and a bit too... I dont know. It feels like a lunch tray in the lap and it could heat a 2k sq. ft. house when it really gets going. If I had used it extensively (I didn't) the heat probably would have sterilized me and cooked my legs with enough time.

But that doesn't mean I'm 200% AGAINST a 16" MBP, just that a 14" would be somewhat preferable. The concerns I'm seeing about overheating and throttling of an M2 Max in the 14" form factor are somewhat concerning, but as I dig deeper, there seem to be two camps here. One who says they will NEVER buy a laptop where there is ANY compromise involved (which is frankly kind of silly) and they go on to really bash the 14" heating/throttling issue, and another - seemingly more sensible - camp that states that overheating and throttling is something that the vast majority of even professional users likely won't experience often - if at all. They say that the benchmarks being run are putting excessive, incredible load on these chips that will rarely - if ever - be seen in anything but the most absolutely demanding use cases... which I understand is how benchmarks often work.

For the record, my intended uses for the laptop will be primarily writing code (mostly Python, maybe some Golang) and music production, primarily in FL Studio (post v20, where they added support for Apple Silicon - VSTs I like to use might be another issue here entirely in that regard, but I'm emotionally prepared for that fight).

So what's the deal? Should I say "fuck it" and spring for the 16" with the Max chip? Or does the 14" sound fine for my uses/are the complaints totally overblown?

EDIT: I think I'm calling it here. The 14" Max model I'm looking at is $3099. If I was to take the Pro build and bump it to 32GB RAM, the price difference becomes only $200 - a difference I can stomach for the convenience of getting it as soon as I drag my lazy ass out of the chair and drive to the Apple store for same-day pickup. Everyone's feedback is HIGHLY appreciated.

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[-] dalingrin@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

None of your workloads will require anything from the GPU so I doubt you’ll experience much, if any, throttling. That said, that means you are also paying more for the GPU in the M2 Max that you won’t be using vs the M2 Pro.

[-] _bug0ut@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I might do some light gaming on it, but that's really what my Steam Deck is for. I'd personally consider the added GPU power a road into maybe learning 3d modeling/rendering or animation or something down the road for fun, so really just hobbyist level stuff.

So the heat/throttling is really coming from/caused by heat generated by the GPU and not the CPU cores, then?

[-] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Although at that point, you could also leave it for down the road, and consider the extra GPU when you need it. You'll just be wasting money on a contingency you're unlikely to make use of.

The heat is probably from having to cool both. It's probably able to handle either the CPU or GPU cores running full-tilt, but struggles if both of them are generating heat.

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