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Is that Communism? Is that too much to ask for?
Its more of a social democracy but no it is not too much to ask for. It should be the baseline
That's more like socialism though, where capitalism coexist with worker/government run corporations.
Reading arguments about these concepts while many people completely disagree what their definitions are feels like treading water waiting to exhaust myself and drown.
Maybe the point is the policies and anyone who argues about words is part of the problem.
Well the definitions are pretty clear, some people might just be uninformed because mixing the two has been very common in the right's communication for decades.
Since China is communist like tankies believe, you also forgot a fascist police state with total control over the internet tot he point where you'll get a police visit if you post a meme critical of the government.
Why are there so many Chinese people reading American news and posting memes on WeChat? They just keep getting arrested and censored while being able to post in jail, and no one removes their old or new posts?
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Answer the question. Why are all these Chinese people reading foreign news with a VPN and posting memes on Chinese sites (with their real name and info attached) with no punishment? Even people in North Korea have seen how American cops treat black people, and they weren't punished for finding that information. How did all these people do it? How did they dodge the government while using their real face, name, cell info, and identity attached?
How do you personally know this isn't true when there's countless stories of it happening? Global conspiracy huh?
Why do they need a VPN to access the global internet? Why do they repeatedly have to find alternative VPNs as the existing ones stop working?
Your first and second point combined basically means that everybody has to live in some government designed and funded flat. If you don't like that, there's nothing to be done. Same with food and everything. Oh you don't like the government mandated 1500kcal protein slurry per day? Sucks to be you then... Of course it doesn't have to be bad, but you are enabling a system where it could be bad and nobody could do anything about it.
Yeah, I don't see why #2 is necessary. Make the government have to compete with the free market. If you're poor, you get a government-funded apartment, but if you're wealthy, you can afford a luxury condo.
There are food banks in my city, and nobody believes that they're a threat and they're going to put supermarkets out of business. You could just have standardized, ubiquitous food banks run by the government.
I think they mean all this business with water and housing. Investment properties are a plague all over this country. They inflate the price of housing so that someone can make a living off of someone else's need for shelter.
Your very first point list out 99% of what's there is to life. Yeah, it is too much to ask.