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Albama
(lemy.lol)
Transcript
Alabama suffocated a man to death in a gas chamber tonight after starving him so he wouldn't choke on his own vomit as they did it. And this was deemed perfectly legal by multiple courts in the vaunted American legal system.
That's what happens when you value institutions over people.
Link for more info: https://www.reuters.com/legal/alabama-prepares-carry-out-first-execution-by-nitrogen-asphyxiation-2024-01-25/
Man, that's crazy. Almost as crazy as stabbing Elizabeth Sennett to death in her home with fireplace pokers for $1000, then living another ~35 years on the taxpayer dime, and finally being executed for murdering a woman 36 years ago. ¯\(°_o)/¯
An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. How does killing him improve the world, that keeping him locked up wouldn’t?
Your platitude is bullshit. Eye for an eye has always been a deterrent for most. Gotta kill the rest. Like u said. U can't let them out. Why kill him? Cuz that's the definition of justice when he killed someone.
How is him sitting in prison justice? It's not.
That is your definition of justice. I personally believe that a murder in response to a murder just makes two murders. I don’t see justice in that.
No, I'm talking about absolute justice. Your version is just a degree from letting them off Scott free. If the deterrent for death isn't death then why punish them at all?
I don't think people with your reasoning realize that you're giving the murder what they want. Literally no one wants to die but ppl can do life in prison and laugh about all the people they killed and even profit or be glorified.
That's your idea of justice in this case and it's a slap on the face to families who have lost loved ones.
As far as I'm concerned you should look at it like every killer that gets out and kills again is on the shoulders of people like you.
imagine living in TYoOL Two Thousand Twenty Four and still thinking the Code of Hammurabi is the epitome of justice, and that convicts are literal inhuman monsters 100% of the time that exist only to kill and terrorize and crime on people. The system can and does fuck up so the question becomes are all the innocent prisoners executed in Texas every year worth satisfying your absolutely bronze-age sense of justice, or do you think you can join the adults in the room in valuing human life even when it's complicated?
PS numerous studies have showed the death penalty is not a deterrent, so like there aren't even facts in your corner, just infantile fee-fees and baby-brained fearmongering.
My friend, if death is the punishment for a single murder, what’s stopping them from killing 2 people? 3? 4? 10?
When you dole out a “this is the worst we can do to you” punishment, there’s no reason to stop. This concept actually increases the chances of crime, because “fuck it, I’m gonna die anyway.”
It’s also extremely short sighted. For every ~9 inmates found guilty and sentenced to death, 1 is exonerated. And that isn’t even mentioning the number of people who have been executed who were proven innocent after the fact.
How about we just make the chances of killing an innocent person 0% by no longer executing people?
they cant let him out because our penal system is dysfunctional and doesnt work.
I'm baffled that ANYBODY thought it was a good idea to begin with.
this is why countries and states that allow execution invariably have lower crime rates
i think justice is when my family doesnt get murdered in the first place because of policies that actually reduce crime, im quirky like that
it's more expensive to execute people than imprison them for life.
According to this, as of 2015, the cost to incarcerate a man for 1 year in Alabama was $14,780.
As we all know, costs have skyrocketed since 2015, but let's be ultra, ultra generous & say incarceration costs were a flat $10K/yr until 2014. 25 years at $10K/yr, $250K.
Let's pretend inflation somehow never happened, 2015 - 2023, 9 years at $14,780. $133,020.
$133,020 + $250,000 = $383,020.
Inmate at one time requested firing squad, and death is death, so let's say the bullet cost $2. You allocate an additional $4,998 for staff to perform firing squad duties, party balloons, party hats, and confetti. $5K & 5 mins....vs. 35 years & $383K++++, only to end with a more expensive & contrived execution style, more suffering, and the exact same end result. Death is death.
So about a million dollars, or 5 times cheaper than the median cost of the death penalty.
The median cost of a death penalty is $1,250,000
Even without your estimating and looking up the actual numbers — actual cost of lifetime incarceration is 800k, so in real life it's only twice as expensive to execute someone. Also the equivalent of about 3-4 years salary of a corporate Director or VP
And that's not even considering that incarceration has fringe benefits too. Through study, analysis, therapy and statistics we can learn how to prevent tragedy in future — not the case with execution.
You're missing all of the lawyers fees to get to stop the execution.