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[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

I'd say that's a good comparison however I would argue that rather than a "team", political agendas (literally not the stupid co-opted meaning) are comprised of micro-teams based on any given measure. As such, you have the occasional partisan bill where you are directly working with members of any party, or a variety of measures inside the party, but with overlapping groups.

But you're absolutely right, I think the staunch example is obvious Mitch McConnell, who notoriously will not vote outside party lines even if it's the right thing that benefits everyone. That's not a team, there's no intention of being one. And it seems like all the old people in politics are just like him, just not nearly as long in stay because they force the younger politicians to "wait their turn". It's bullshit, young people in politics would help immensely and they know that.

I feel like Feinstein is a sad glimpse at what we have to look forward to from our future, where rather than getting to retire in peace these people are kept in the system and paraded instead of being allowed to gracefully give up their position. I say that with respect to her autonomy, it's abysmal that she never reached retirement because of how politics has been forcefully designed to be an old person's game. These people should have been out of politics 20 years ago :(

[-] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

where rather than getting to retire in peace these people are kept in the system and paraded instead of being allowed to gracefully give up their position. I say that with respect to her autonomy, it's abysmal that she never reached retirement because of how politics has been forcefully designed to be an old person's game. These people should have been out of politics 20 years ago :(

My guy why are you acting like retiring was stolen from her? She was a walking mummy long before her mental faculties took a nose dive, and chose to stay in politics. Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if a sane Feinstein would've told her team to keep her around the way they did if her mind declined. She was not a victim here; she was part of the problem

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I don't disagree with that either. It's a consequence of itself. She, like all these dinosaurs, felt the need to "just go one more term". Whether the reasons are power or political plays it doesn't fully matter. I think another example of this is Ruth Bader Ginsburg, had she left her position in 2013 or even before we wouldn't have been in the position where she "felt like she had to stay" during Trump's presidency, only to die anyway.

Two things can be true. It can be wrong of all of them to keep politics as an old person's game and simultaneously be a shame that none of these people get to experience retirement. Just because they're being inhumane doesn't mean we need to be.

[-] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

While two things can be true simultaneously, I just still don't agree that it should be considered a shame they didn't get to experience retirement, as that heavily implies they were at some level swept into that shame of a scenario by other forces. To make an extreme comparison, it'd be like saying it's a shame hitler didn't get to transition into a peaceful retirement. He (and they) created the destructive environment that closed that option off; it's not a shame they couldn't retire, it's a shame they're the kind of people in power in the first place.

Just because they're being inhumane doesn't mean we need to be.

It's not inhumane to lack sympathy for someone who actively hurt the system everyone relies on, for their own personal gain, just because they didn't also get a cherry on the top of their sundae

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