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I've been debating to myself whether or not voting for a third party candidate (Either PSL's de la Cruz or Green's West, regardless of my criticisms for both) would be the most "effective" use of my time in election season this year. The argument for "not" is that maybe voting at all is bad because it legitimizes this system, even if a third party candidate getting a record turnout would grab more attention (and piss off Blue MAGA cultists) than simply not going since it's not like abysmal turnouts, even by this country's historical standards, are newsworthy at this point. So I guess I have to ask how you people rationalize voting or not this year?

I fully understand that this is more symbolic than anything else and won't materially affect change for a while but it's still something to think about.

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[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

I would probably vote for biden if i was in a swing state to protect my trans comrades. But i salute your conviction.

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

Biden is in no way protecting our trans comrades. Ohio just passed a reactionary transphobic law, overriding a veto to ensure it would be the most anti-trans version possible (the governor vetoed the original bill to "protect sports") .. Biden is president now, wtf is he doing to stop that? He might fundraise off of it, or say he will do something if he wins, but he won't... He did the exact same thing with abortion and roe v wade. Congress isn't passing any laws on that anytime soon either

[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

And what party controls ohio?

And what party controls the state governments that are not passing those laws?

Acting like minorities are equally attacked by both parties is disingenuous and makes communists look like idiots who don’t know what they are talking about.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Biden has deported more people than Trump and gave police departments all over the country far more funding, objectively he has harmed minorities more than Trump did, which is an astounding metric that has to be shared more often

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago
[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

If you think the targeting of minorities is the same under trump and Biden you are an idiot. Sorry.

[-] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

If you think there will be a meaningful difference in the extent to which minorities are targeted depending on which flavor of fash is in the white house, you are an idiot. Sorry.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So we're just gonna ignore that Biden deported more Latinos than Trump did? Continued building the wall? Continued funneling more military surplus under the 1033 Program to racist, murderous police departments than Trump did? You're usually better about shit like this; and seeing liberal crackery like this out of you disgusts me.

This is not an invitation to dialogue; this is a condemnation. Do better.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Liberals are more likely to pretend to care about Trans rights under Trump than under Biden

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