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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don't, you weren't paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton's campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we're being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election "We're about to get Brexited." I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980's.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They're the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

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[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So that presents an interesting perspective. All this shit is happening, then, because some arrogant Republican state officials were miffed Hilary snubbed their state entirely (another profoundly arrogant move, admittedly) and used that and their naive 2015 perspective to essentially doom the entire fucking world to this incredibly horrible shitshow we're all being treated to round 2 of as though it was their right to put it on the schedule.

"Democracy".

Sounds like everyone involved has had their job for entirely too long, no doubt decades too long in some cases.

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

It wasn't state officials. The Hillary campaign ate their own propaganda, and believed they were far in the lead. In the final days before the election, they campaigned in states their polling said were the closest. Meanwhile, Trump was in all the states that actually were closest, making his case to the voters he needed in the right places.

If you aren't ever willing to hear bad news, people will learn to lie to you, and the result was bad - because voters didn't turn out enough for Hillary in the contestable states.

Ironically, when the Republican establishment left Trump out to dry in a few ways, he was also obviously unwilling to hear bad news, and it also didn't turn out well. I wish there was a lesson in all this.

this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2024
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