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I'm going to digress from the economics a tad and focus on the ethics of this. I feel like companies should be on the hook for this. You should invest in capital (including human labor) based on your confidence in its expected return. Companies should not be able to hire a myriad of workers for funzies and not have to meaningfully consider if that person will be necessary in 6 months. If it is a legitimate business venture, then the cost of potential severance for new hires should be folded into the economics of the decision to pursue that venture. Larger severance pay/worker protections encourage employers to not utilize exploitative hiring practices.
For example, a company in such an environment could have a plan for a four month bit of work. They could employ people on an appropriate short term contract.
Can't tell if we're agreeing or disagreeing. Companies should totally be able to hire on short-term contracts. But it should be clear that it is a temporary contract from the start, not a bait-and-switch from long-term employment to hire-and-fire.
Some people want a short term contract. If too few people want such, the company will have to pay a premium to hire people short term.
There of course must also be penalties for companies that hire ongoing, but end it before retirement
I guess you’re OK with putting a damper on entry level positions if it protects workers who already have a job.
They gave a nuanced reply. You wrote that.
I mean if the only way they're gonna have jobs is through predatory hiring practices that could leave them fired and without severance, then yeah. Because if the company is planning on hiring these younger workers for the long-haul, then this shouldn't be a significant change. I think overall national policy should discourage unnecessary high-turnover and predatory hiring. I'm sure there will be situations this is still unavoidable, but that doesn't mean we have to endorse it by way of law/policy.
Yeah, what companies want is all jobs to be exploitable like entry level jobs. That's kind of what's happening now with stuff like Uber where companies get away with paying their employees as little as possible and few benefits.
Protecting and providing incentive to hire for the long term seems like better thing in the long run over many crappy low paying jobs.